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Old 09-22-2016, 03:51 PM
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Two words for all you debaters Joe Morgan
great player, top 5 2b easily, but man, he isn't in the ballpark of Hornsby. There are only 3 people in the history of baseball who hit better than he: Ruth, Williams and Gehrig.
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great player, top 5 2b easily, but man, he isn't in the ballpark of Hornsby. There are only 3 people in the history of baseball who hit better than he: Ruth, Williams and Gehrig.
Agreed. Wonder however if in some roundabout way he gets hurt because there is the Jimmy Collins in the same issue. I don't agree that the card isn't attractive I love the deep maroon, magenta background. I guess others don't.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:17 PM
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Agreed. Wonder however if in some roundabout way he gets hurt because there is the Jimmy Collins in the same issue. I don't agree that the card isn't attractive I love the deep maroon, magenta background. I guess others don't.
I was referring to Morgan then Hornsby in my quoted post...(in case you got mixed up)

but yeah, IDK what the Collins issue is, the card looks fine to me, his career is elite and he was better than nearly everyone at 2b not named Rogers Hornsby.

I guess it was market, too much moving around and he didn't have the charisma of the others???
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I was referring to Morgan then Hornsby in my quoted post...(in case you got mixed up)

but yeah, IDK what the Collins issue is, the card looks fine to me, his career is elite and he was better than nearly everyone at 2b not named Rogers Hornsby.

I guess it was market, too much moving around and he didn't have the charisma of the others???
I don't get the "too much moving around" theory. He was one of the two most important hitters on a legendary dynasty in Philly for almost a decade, and for another decade he was one of the top hitters on the freakin' Blacksox / Whitesox. Then he went back to Philly to help launch another dynasty. 2 teams in 20 plus years. Very similar to Speaker and Lajoie, yet by no means the same respect. Eddie is still #13 in career WAR according to BR. Maybe it was the ears.

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Eh. Nevermind

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This thread ended up inspiring me to pick up the Collins for sale over at the t206 sale forum.

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I know that some consider Collins' T206 to be his RC but even that really hasn't helped push up its' price. I suppose the Sporting Life Cabinet is his true rookie.
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I know that some consider Collins' T206 to be his RC but even that really hasn't helped push up its' price. I suppose the Sporting Life Cabinet is his true rookie.
He looks like he's 12 in that portrait, that's for sure.
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This thread ended up inspiring me to pick up the Collins for sale over at the t206 sale forum.

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great player, top 5 2b easily, but man, he isn't in the ballpark of Hornsby. There are only 3 people in the history of baseball who hit better than he: Ruth, Williams and Gehrig.
I was talking about the argument for 2nd place. I agree Hornsby is #1.

Oddly as a broadcaster (and he was as awful a broadcaster as he was great as a player) he hated sabermetrics and advanced stats even though though they greatly demonstrate his accomplishments as a player more than the traditional stats do.
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great player, top 5 2b easily, but man, he isn't in the ballpark of Hornsby. There are only 3 people in the history of baseball who hit better than he: Ruth, Williams and Gehrig.


Where's Cobb and Shoeless on that list?
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