Toughest signed cards possible

[CW]

A few days ago Quan posted some of his cards, and a couple people were ooh-ing and ahh-ing at his signed Jim Abbott card. I didn't see his name mentioned in this thread. Is he a tough one in general?

[CW]

And I've never posted this here before because I didn't want to deal with the numerous PMs asking me to sell, but here's one from the personal collection....






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[Republicaninmass]

Mossi...he is GLORIOUS

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by CW

A few days ago Quan posted some of his cards, and a couple people were ooh-ing and ahh-ing at his signed Jim Abbott card. I didn't see his name mentioned in this thread. Is he a tough one in general?

He doesn't TTM sign, but he usually has 1-2 signings per year at $15-$20 per.

[sycks22]

Finding any Doerr / Feller cards signed are near impossible

[CW]

^^^

also, thanks Steven and Ted.

[mrmopar]

I picked up a lot of cards on the cheap recently and in it was a 1986T Traded Ricky Wright. I know there is a fair amount of buzz about the 87T but his signature seems to be harder to find on anything, given the career he had and the fact that he is still alive. I have seen a number of 83F cards, which would be my card of choice anyway. I have him on that and a 8x10 team sheet with multiple other players.

Anyway, I was going to scan this card and see what others thought. I don't know if this card has the reputation for being any tougher than any other Wright auto (besides the 87T), but the rest of the lot looked good and for the price I paid, it was ZERO risk for me on this or any other card in the lot.

Scan to follow shortly…

I am having some doubts now as I see this compared to others that are "certified", but who knows? There are not a lot of signatures to compare with.

[Republicaninmass]

Only the 87 topps he won't sign apparently



Just picked up a signed 71 Hodges...not an easy one!

[egri]

I'm surprised at how difficult Earl Harrist from the 1953 Topps set is; I've only seen one, and that was over a year ago. Meanwhile I've seen two each of Karl Drews, Cliff Fannin, Danny O'Connell and Don Hoak, who all died in the 1960s.

[Republicaninmass]

Never seen Harrist on a 52 either

[Jayworld]

Cool thread! Here is a link to a video in which Doug Flynn explains why he won't sign the 1986 Topps. Very good information, and he seems like a nice guy..

http://topprospectalert.com/2011/12/...e-in-25-years/

Thanks.

[Topps206]

I'm still holding out hope one day Wright gives in and signs.

[Jersey City Giants]

Why won't he sign the 87Topps?

[packs]

I know these guys say its for charity or whatever but I can't help but see this crap as egotistical, lame nonsense. The guy signed cards once. Those cards aren't being sold regularly to continually drum up funds for whatever charity they support. At this point its just silly. At least Flynn is actively signing for charity.

[mrmopar]

I would tend to agree.

Flynn could charge $5-10 each for that card and probably bring in more than he could at $500 per for a select few only. Of course, that means he has to sign more cards.

Ron Kittle signs his 1984 Topps card for Charity only. He charges $25 as I found out trying to track one down years ago. Ron seems like a real down to earth guy (at least on Facebook), but he could probably earn more for the charity at a more acceptable price for that card. I understand he signs anything else for free.

Originally Posted by packs

I know these guys say its for charity or whatever but I can't help but see this crap as egotistical, lame nonsense. The guy signed cards once. Those cards aren't being sold regularly to continually drum up funds for whatever charity they support. At this point its just silly. At least Flynn is actively signing for charity.

[AFLfan]

This is likely the toughest signed football card of the 1960s. I believe Brian Piccolo had about a year to sign his 1969 Topps card, as he died in June 1970. Frank Buncom had perhaps a month? Buncom had a second series card in 1969, and passed away on September 14, 1969.

[benderbroeth]

i absolutly love this thread, has anyone ever seen a signed 1957 Maurice Stokes?

[Topps206]

Any chance of a 1964 signed Jim Umbricht? I'm curious. Probably not.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Topps206

Any chance of a 1964 signed Jim Umbricht? I'm curious. Probably not.

I've seen the 63, but cant remember a 64

[Topps206]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I've seen the 63, but cant remember a 64

Yes. There's a '63 on eBay for $950.00.

[Republicaninmass]

I'd be hesitant on that one
I dont know the seller well, bjt doesnt look like any I've seen at first glance

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[Topps206]

The seller has 99.8% positive feedback. As much as I'd love to shell out the cash for this, now isn't the best time as I'm trying to save money.

[scotty21690]

Glad to see you do.

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Had no idea about Kinder, his writing doesnt look too bad. He is notoriously difficult

I would say his handwriting is not terrible if he did indeed leave school after 6th grade...




For Red Sox players, Kinder and Vern Stephens (already mentioned) are very tough....Tony Conigliaro is fairly tough to come by even though he passed less than 30 years ago. I would imagine the toughest Red Sox (50's onward) to get would be Harry Agganis, who died in his second professional season in 55' from a pulmonary embolism. PSA's website shows 1 out there...


When I saw the title I thought of a couple guys who died during their career, Lyman Bostock and Walt Bond. Bostock seems to have a handful on eBay so he's not as rare as I'd expect. Other toughies I'd imagine are: Danny Frisella, Herman Hill, Ken Hubbs, Mike Miley, Bob Moose, Chico Ruiz, Jim Umbricht, Don Wilson, etc...

[Republicaninmass]

I've been looking for a 52 Al Benton for over a decade

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[theshleps]

I have a 2009 UD Adenhart that had a 3 week window. Love to sell it.
61 Fleer Cobb and 61 Scoops Cobb and Gaedel- not sure if any exist

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by theshleps

I have a 2009 UD Adenhart that had a 3 week window. Love to sell it.

61 Fleer Cobb and 61 Scoops Cobb and Gaedel- not sure if any exist

Love that Adenhart you have. Very cool piece.

I swear I've seen at least 1 copy of a Cobb 61 Fleer and I believe it was trimmed and skinned.

[Big Six]

Adenhart was a good dude...he had tons of potential...




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[steveinphilly]

In 1983, the Phillies put out a series of Nostalgia Night postcards, with Dick Perez paintings (sets are easy to pick up on eBay). On August 26, the greatest third basemen in Phillies history card was issued, with Puddin' Head Jones, Pinky Whitney, and some guy named Schmidt. Jones died of cancer at age 58 on October 18, less than two months later, in Cincinnati. Whitney died in 1987. It's rare that a Mike Schmidt autograph is the cheapest one in a bunch, but on that card it is. I have seen the card signed by Whitney and Schmidt for around $300. I've never seen one signed by Jones as well, although a dealer in Philly told me he had one that was stolen from his table at a card show in the 1990s. I can't imagine there are a lot of those--one basically would have needed to write to Jones during those few weeks he was alive and then followed up with Whitney within 4 years. I imagine a lot of people trying to collect the set signed might have focused on the active players like Schmidt during the season and then mailed to the old-timers in the offseason, by which time it would have been too late for Jones.

[Republicaninmass]

Jones was also a notoriously difficult signer, so doubtful a signed one exists.

[jimtigers65]

1966 Topps Fritz Fisher. He only appeared in one game and pitched 1/3 of an inning. His era was 108.00. Haven’t seen any autographs of him.

[tazdmb]

There are some tough (87 Ricky wright) cards in the upcoming REA auction.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

If I'm not mistaken one or two of the Callahan HOF cards are only just barely possible. I imagine Perez Steele's have a couple of nearly impossible examples as well.

[mrmopar]

I'd love to see a 1965 Tops Dodgers rookie card signed by all 4. I don't know if any Dennis Daboll signed versions exist, either alone or with any of the other players. He never made the MLB level and died unexpectedly at age 27 in early 1974.

[MacDice]

I’d like to see a 1957 Dodger sluggers signed by all four

[pops]

I think I have an incredibly rare signed card, possibly one of a kind? A 1949 Bowman Ernie "Tiny" Bonham. He died in September of '49. Very short window for him to sign, only months between the production of the card until his death. If someone else has one or is aware of one please lmk. Very curious, I haven't seen another yet. Jim Stinson was parting out a set of signed '49 bowman and I was able to get about 12 cards including the Bonham.

[SetBuilder]

Originally Posted by mschwade

He probably has a stash of them somewhere for his family after he is gone.

That's what author Cormac McCarthy is doing with first edition copies of The Road.

He has said publicly several times that he will not sign a first edition of that book, but you still see fake signed copies on eBay every now and then.

That's when you realize how delusional some people can be when they, a) don't do basic research before spending $400 on an autograph, and b) even when presented with evidence that an author/athlete does not sign a specific item, they still reason that maybe one slipped by somehow. Maybe an autograph collector put a false dustjacket on The Road and tricked McCarthy into signing it! It's possible.