Clayton Kershaw

[the 'stache]

Respectfully, what other level is there for him to go to? Since the start of 2014, he's 43-11 with a 1.92 ERA, 628 Ks vs 78 BB, he's given up 27 home runs in 501 innings pitched. His WHIP the past three years is 0.846; his FIP is 1.83. He's allowing 6.2 hits/9 IP, walking 1.4 batters while striking out 11.3. His K:BB ratio is a ridiculous 8.16:1.

Pedro had one season in his career with a FIP under two: 1.39 in 1999. Kershaw is carrying a 1.83 FIP over 500 + innings the past three seasons.

If you ask me, his 187 ERA + since the start of 2014 seems low, as does his 225 ERA + this season. He's struck out 88 batters in 70 innings...while walking 4 guys. Four. He has A 1.67 era. His WHIP is 0.700. Are you kidding me?

In four May starts, he's 4-0 with a 0.82 ERA; 48 Ks in 33 IP, and 1 walk. His WHIP in May is 0.576.

He should be 8-1 right now.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Respectfully, what other level is there for him to go to? Since the start of 2014, he's 43-11 with a 1.92 ERA, 628 Ks vs 78 BB, he's given up 27 home runs in 501 innings pitched. His WHIP the past three years is 0.846; his FIP is 1.83. He's allowing 6.2 hits/9 IP, walking 1.4 batters while striking out 11.3. His K:BB ratio is a ridiculous 8.16:1.

Pedro had one season in his career with a FIP under two: 1.39 in 1999. Kershaw is carrying a 1.83 FIP over 500 + innings the past three seasons.

If you ask me, his 187 ERA + since the start of 2014 seems low, as does his 225 ERA + this season. He's struck out 88 batters in 70 innings...while walking 4 guys. Four. He has A 1.67 era. His WHIP is 0.700. Are you kidding me?

In four May starts, he's 4-0 with a 0.82 ERA; 48 Ks in 33 IP, and 1 walk. His WHIP in May is 0.576.

He should be 8-1 right now.

Exactly my point. What we are witnessing right now is probably the best Kershaw will be.

After peaking (sans PEDs) almost all players digress toward retirement.

Hence, their career figures are not as good as their peaks...which is why they call them that, I guess.

I'm all about celebrating Kershaw especially since he's a lefty, but Pedro is still the best I ever saw.


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[the 'stache]

What I meant to say was not that Kershaw couldn't pitch any better, but that I didn't see how any pitcher could humanly pitch better than Kershaw is now.

At age 28, Kershaw is better than Pedro was at the same point in his career. The things both could account for themselves-preventing walks, home runs, and hit batters, while causing strikeouts--Kershaw is better. His FIP to date in his age 28 season is 2.57. Pedro Martinez' FIP through 2000 was 2.81. Martinez had a WHIP of 1.028 over the same span. Kershaw's WHIP is 1.019. And Kershaw did that while throwing 104 2/3 more innings than Martinez.

Then, you take into consideration that Kershaw is a lefty.

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Exactly my point. What we are witnessing right now is probably the best Kershaw will be.

After peaking (sans PEDs) almost all players digress toward retirement.

Hence, their career figures are not as good as their peaks...which is why they call them that, I guess.

I'm all about celebrating Kershaw especially since he's a lefty, but Pedro is still the best I ever saw.


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