Signed T206 Marquards

[T206Collector]

I'm trying to identify all of the signed T206 Marquards out there in hobbyland. If you have one that is not featured here (or if you have a scan of one that is not here) can you please send it my way, or post it here? I will add it to the composite in this post and update the thread.

Also please check out my thread on the number of signed T206 Doyles and Snodgrasses in existence here:

DOYLES
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...77#post1660377

SNODGRASSES
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=255196


Thanks!

Updated composites (11-26-18)
Total: 57

Moved down 1 due to evidence of forgery discovered by Net54 member SetBuilder (Manny), which you can view here:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=262580

[HOF Auto Rookies]

You have all 3 of mine


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[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I'm trying to identify all of the signed T206 Marquards out there in hobbyland. If you have one that is not featured here (or if you have a scan of one that is not here) can you please send it my way, or post it here? Thanks!

My god please tell me these are not all yours lol

[JustinD]

It looks like you do not have this Hindu that legendary auctioned -

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/lot-46770.aspx

[T206Collector]

While I have owned many of them at one time or another, I only own one of each pose currently.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by JustinD

It looks like you do not have this Hindu that legendary auctioned

Ah! Thanks - I did have it, but failed to include it in my composite for some reason. Thanks!

[T206Collector]

Here...

[T206Collector]

...any more.???

[Jobu]

I know very little about autographs, but to me it looks like there is a huge amount of variability among those signatures. Is this because he signed over the course of a long life?

[Laxcat]

I have a throwing. It was in the shop when my dad closed it down. Now it's buried in storage somewhere. I'm planning an expedition to unearth stuff from storage. I'll post as soon as I find it.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Jobu

I know very little about autographs, but to me it looks like there is a huge amount of variability among those signatures. Is this because he signed over the course of a long life?

There are maybe 3 or 4 different Marquard styles, which you can probably attribute to the fact that he lived until 1980 and signed these cards for 60+ years!

[Jobu]

I was guessing the variability was probably due to that in this case. Has anyone ever been able to date each of the signature types using anecdotal evidence, type of pen, etc?

Originally Posted by T206Collector

There are maybe 3 or 4 different Marquard styles, which you can probably attribute to the fact that he lived until 1980 and signed these cards for 60+ years!

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Jobu

I was guessing the variability was probably due to that in this case. Has anyone ever been able to date each of the signature types using anecdotal evidence, type of pen, etc?

Not to my knowledge. Sounds like a good idea, however. Most of the signatures you see are post-publication of The Glory of Their Times in the mid-1960s.

[MVSNYC]

It appears, he signed many T206 cards, I assume he has the most known signed examples of any player? How does that effect value?

I also see a lot of variance across all examples. I question the authenticity of some, as they look like they were signed by different hands. I get the age factor, but I see different slants, styles, etc.

[ATP]

The only one that really shows different traits is this one, the rest are pretty consistent with how he signed over the course of time. I have been working on a small personal research project for a few months, and am now fairly certain that Rube's wife was signing for him for a very short period of time towards the end of his career, which previously hasn't been a concern. When I am finished with it I will eventually post a signature study on my site and the autograph section so that others can weigh in as well.

[T206Collector]

A couple more portraits....

[T206Collector]

...and this one...

[Runscott]

Wow. No wonder the last one at auction went so cheap.

[Jobu]

Still waiting for a signed reverse comma or armpit 8

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Wow. No wonder the last one at auction went so cheap.

Except it didn't! The one in Goodwin this week went for nearly $3,000, and I didn't even bid! I am fairly certain this is the highest price public or private for the sale of a signed Marquard T206. Given the abundance of signed Marqurds at auction, this can probably be explained by the beautiful condition of card and signature.

https://www.goodwinandco.com/mobile/...entoryid=31025

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Except it didn't! The one in Goodwin this week went for nearly $3,000, and I didn't even bid! I am fairly certain this is the highest price public or private for the sale of a signed Marquard T206. Given the abundance of signed Marqurds at auction, this can probably be explained by the beautiful condition of card and signature.

https://www.goodwinandco.com/mobile/...entoryid=31025

I missed that one - I was referring to the Hunt one that was in the same auction as a signed T206 Crawford.

Yes, that's a beautiful card.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I was referring to the Hunt one that was in the same auction as a signed T206 Crawford.

Yes, thanks, forgot to add that one...

[HRBAKER]

Could be about time to sell!

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Could be about time to sell!

That catalog would be one for the ages!

[mullinsm]

Ol' Rube must have been having a tough day...got a little confused and signed it twice! Or maybe he wanted this one to be twice as valuable...

In all seriousness, it looks like someone tried to forge his signature, failed, and then tried again. I bought this one on ebay with no expectation of it being an authentic signature; I just needed it for my collection and the price was right (i.e., cheap).

It is an authentic T206 at least. Back is Sov 150 with some paper loss. For me, the "signature(s)" just add character.

mm

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by mullinsm

Ol' Rube must have been having a tough day...got a little confused and signed it twice!

Love it!

[calvindog]

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by calvindog

That is amazing!!!


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[asoriano]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Too funny!

[7nohitter]

Now that is a riot! I wonder what the letter to him was like....was it Dr. Steen?

Dear Marquard,

I have followed your storied career and am insisting upon 15 signed cards,

Sincerely,

Steen

[boneheadandrube]

[T206Collector]

Awesome card! Thanks for sharing!

[Howe’s Hunter]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I often thought Paul should acquire this, then frame it with 14 signed Marquards around it, and a blank spot for number 15.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by StuckInOmaha

I often thought Paul should acquire this, then frame it with 14 signed Marquards around it, and a blank spot for number 15.

It would fit into my collection perfectly, for sure. The problem is one of valuation. Even if Jeff was interested in selling or trading it, Marquard signed index cards are a dime a dozen. I'm certain I couldn't offer anything close to what it's worth to him.

[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by calvindog

That is a beautiful piece.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

That is a beautiful piece.

+1. A dime a dozen, though.

[T206Collector]

Yeah, there are 31 signed index cards of Marquard on ebay now, starting at $19.99. This beauty can be had for $29.99:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RUBE-MARQUAR...item4d02c9c556

The question is really how much does that amazing inscription add to the value of an otherwise $30 autographed index card? At that point you're paying for content more than signature. The value of content is extremely subjective.

When I bought this Snodgrass collection, the letter wasn't much more than a throw-in. But, because of the content, and reference to a signed "Cigarette Photo card", it is more or less priceless to me. That's my subjective value.

[gregr2]

That letter is amazing!! I agree with your sentiments regarding the value of it.

[btcarfagno]

Could he possibly mean "index cards" and not T206 type of cards?

Tom C

[MVSNYC]

Sorry for the bad scan...and it's not a signed T206 card, but another Snodgrass letter. Great baseball content here. Got this piece from Sir Jay Wolt.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Could he possibly mean "index cards" and not T206 type of cards?

Tom C

Yes, I think that is quite the possibility. But, when you line it up with a stack of signed Marquard T206s the tobacco card inference is inescapable.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Yes, I think that is quite the possibility. But, when you line it up with a stack of signed Marquard T206s the tobacco card inference is inescapable.

I think I just cheated on my wife from just thinking about a stack of signed Marquard T206 cards.

Too much info?

Tom C

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

I think I just cheated on my wife from just thinking about a stack of signed Marquard T206 cards.

Too much info?

Tom C

WAY too much!

[sayhey24]

Just found this Marquard card in a box I haven't checked in years. It's not a T206, but I thought this thread would be a good place to ask if you think it's his signature, or his name written by someone else? (sorry -- I can't get the signature photo right side up!)

Greg

[T206Collector]

Looks good to me. Not sure why the card was cut up after Rube signed it.

[sayhey24]

Yes, that makes no sense, another reason why I thought maybe it wasn't a real signature. I guess I now have two signed Marquard cards!

Greg

[insccollectibles]

You have mine. It has a polar bear back.

[milkit1]

Originally Posted by sayhey24

Just found this Marquard card in a box I haven't checked in years. It's not a T206, but I thought this thread would be a good place to ask if you think it's his signature, or his name written by someone else? (sorry -- I can't get the signature photo right side up!)

Greg

I bought this card at the national in Cleveland in 2004 for $5 Really cool card I wish I had kept!

[sayhey24]

Small world Sean! Do you recall if I bought this card directly from you? (I have no memory of where it came from)

Greg

[milkit1]

Hi Greg
Just looked and you did! June 10, 2007