Potentially fake D350-3 Standard Biscuit backed cards on eBay

[rhettyeakley]

Leon, I have no problem with the D350-3 Ruth Todd just posted a scan of as it is 100% legit w/ the clear back and the "old style" SGC holder with the hologram at top on back.

The Ruth in the Hunt Auction that Gary posted a scan of is the questionable one, I don't think that one was graded that long ago (but before SGC switched to their new holders) as it has the "newer style" embossed SGC instead of the hologram at top on back.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Leon, I have no problem with the D350-3 Ruth Todd just posted a scan of as it is 100% legit w/ the clear back and the "old style" SGC holder with the hologram at top on back.

The Ruth in the Hunt Auction that Gary posted a scan of is the questionable one, I don't think that one was graded that long ago (but before SGC switched to their new holders) as it has the "newer style" embossed SGC instead of the hologram at top on back.

I was commenting on the Hunt Auction one.....and now I see it was recently graded..My error, someone else told me about the "other one" being graded 10 yrs and I thought he was talking about the Hunt Ruth, but he wasn't, or he was mistaking.

[rhettyeakley]

How can you tell it was done 10 years ago?

That being said 10 years ago we probably knew even less about these cards than today so regardless of when the item was graded I have serious doubts about the legitimacy of the back of these "Standard Biscuit" cards. It also doesn't change anything as the Walter Johnson and several others have the exact same number as the Ruth (only the last digits after hash mark are different, indicating they were on the same invoice).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

How can you tell it was done 10 years ago?

That being said 10 years ago we probably knew even less about these cards than today so regardless of when the item was graded I have serious doubts about the legitimacy of the back of these "Standard Biscuit" cards. It also doesn't change anything as the Walter Johnson and several others have the exact same number as the Ruth (only the last digits after hash mark are different, indicating they were on the same invoice).

It is the card Todd showed that was graded long ago. My mistake and edited above.. And I know because it was SGC that told me.

[nolemmings]

FWIW, the scan I showed of D350-3 Ruth came from a 2008 REA offering, so it's been around awhile. http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2008/504.html

[the-illini]

I have never collected this issue so forgive me if this is a silly question - the CARDS themselves are real, but the stamp/printing on the back is what is believed to be fake, correct?

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by the-illini

I have never collected this issue so forgive me if this is a silly question - the CARDS themselves are real, but the stamp/printing on the back is what is believed to be fake, correct?

Have the same question.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by the-illini

I have never collected this issue so forgive me if this is a silly question - the CARDS themselves are real, but the stamp/printing on the back is what is believed to be fake, correct?

No idea on the cards themselves as I don't have one in front of me right now to check against a real one to determine that so I don't want to jump the gun and say the cards are fake/counterfeit. The back stamp is likely not real in my opinion based on the evidence. I really hope someone didn't mess with some real W575-1's and add backs to them to make them more desirable, a normal W575-1 card is worth a fraction of what a D350-3 card is worth, the D350-3's are actualy REALLY tough to find.