Seller reference/review needed

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Have you ever seen one that wasn't centered at least slightly to the left? I can't recall one. Are the off ebay ones in the same serial number range?

no they are SGC and BVG.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

no they are SGC and BVG.

I wouldn't touch a BVG card.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I wouldn't touch a BVG card.

right me neither

if cross grade them in the holder you are serious at risk to getting evidence of trimming with psa

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right me neither

if cross grade them in the holder you are serious at risk to getting evidence of trimming with psa

I totally disagree. Over the past 4 months, I have crossed almost 100 vintage cards from BVG to PSA with very good results. Most grades were within .5 up or down and yes I had a few nice surprises and a few bad surprises but ZERO were noted as trimmed. They all graded out.

If you have been around long enough, and know who you are buying from, there can be some great deals or value in buying BVG and crossing them over.

At the recent Shriner's show in Mass, I brought a BVG 8 1948 Leaf boxing Joe Louis to SGC still in the BVG slab. It was for a friend who could not leave his table and he wanted it in an SGC holder. He got it back in an SGC 88 holder!

He sold that card at the show for a nice penny. I understand there are issues out there with all companies from time to time but to make a general statement like that sometimes does more harm than good. Just my 2 cents.

peace, mike

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

I totally disagree. Over the past 4 months, I have crossed almost 100 vintage cards from BVG to PSA with very good results. Most grades were within .5 up or down and yes I had a few nice surprises and a few bad surprises but ZERO were noted as trimmed. They all graded out.

If you have been around long enough, and know who you are buying from, there can be some great deals or value in buying BVG and crossing them over.

At the recent Shriner's show in Mass, I brought a BVG 8 1948 Leaf boxing Joe Louis to SGC still in the BVG slab. It was for a friend who could not leave his table and he wanted it in an SGC holder. He got it back in an SGC 88 holder!

He sold that card at the show for a nice penny. I understand there are issues out there with all companies from time to time but to make a general statement like that sometimes does more harm than good. Just my 2 cents.

peace, mike

Ok you convinced me

[steve_a]

i think there is room in the hobby for someone to make a nice business being the middle man in transactions like this. He could receive payment & the card then complete the transaction when both were deemed ok. I'd pay a bp for that service. Maybe some of the AH or dealers would but I don't see anyone currently pushing this type of service.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by steve_a

i think there is room in the hobby for someone to make a nice business being the middle man in transactions like this. He could receive payment & the card then complete the transaction when both were deemed ok. I'd pay a bp for that service. Maybe some of the AH or dealers would but I don't see anyone currently pushing this type of service.

I pretty sure there are insured carrier services that can do that