How to decipher GU and Store Models?

[Cfern023]

How can I tell which bats are store model and game used?

I've seen Reggie Jackson, Tony Oliva, and others at a local thrift store- but I just dont know if they are GU or not.

And at 75 each, I don't want to just pick them up. He also has a facsimile LSV Wade Boggs and a Ben Sheets block letter (The sheets I think is GU)

A Reggie I saw is still there, here it is.

[bat_master]

The Reggie is a store model. I would say the Ben Sheets is likely a gamer. Pics would help.

[mattm]

There are a few good articles on this topic on the net if you google a bit, but here are some simple rules to start you out:

1. If it is a H&B bat, the model number should be 125 and the branding should be truly stamped and embedded, not decals or printing. Should also say "Powerized" above the bar ell branding

2. Most important - the knob should be stamped with a straight model number with a letter and a number such as W166 or K55, NOT a number such as 3 or 4 or 5 - those are lengths (33,34,35). Youl also so should NOT see a players initials and some numbers, such as JR3 (a Jackie Robinson 33 inch bat).

3. If the length is less than 34 inches, it is likely not a vintage MLB bat (though some smaller guys today order 33.5" like Pedroia).

4. Watch out for star players, as even if you get the right model, you may have a Team Index Bat. These look like the player bats but were ordered by the team for BP or other general use. Often this is a Pro Stock model such as the W166 for Ted Williams. In order to have a chance at being a true GU bat from a star player, you need to match the year, length and weight to the players Personal Bat Ordering Records (PBOR). So a 34 inch O1 model (Lefty O'Doul model favored by Williams early in his career) H&B bat with 1950's branding would be deemed a Team Index bat since Williams' PBOR does not contain 34 inch bats, just 35 inch bats.

Confused yet? Don't worry, you will disqualify most store bats by looking at the number on the barrel and the knobs as above.

Matt

[Cfern023]

Yeah, i got very confused. but the knob seems to be the easiest way to ID them.

I'll check them out. Hopefully the Black Wade Boggs and Tony Oliva/Al Oliver are legit.

Thanks for the advice!

[murphusa]

if you are buying at a thrift store and paying thrift store prices (under $10) buy them all except those marked little league. If they are selling them at $75.00 then be careful and try to pick up some of the bat books to help you see the differences

[Cfern023]

I actually had them all in my hand to figure out what they were and what not when I thought they were 10 each. I figured worst comes to worst I have weapons and game bats.

But hwne he said 70-75 each and they dont make them like they used to I was floored.

I'll see what markings are on the knobs, and pray for the best.