Raising the debt limit?

[vintagetoppsguy]

After 900+ days in office, Obama finally has a plan to reduce unemployment and boost the economy. He’s going to grace us with this big announcement… next month (after his much needed vacation). Yippee! Just like Chris Mathews, I feel a thrill going up my leg.

[Leon]

Hey Guys
While we have rules against discussing politics I think I can (I hope) go a head and give one freebie and let ya'll discuss it in this thread. IF it spills over into any other thread you will be given a warning and then something more severe if it doesn't stop. As we know, I never really had an issue with discussing politics, but the board voted "no" to them. However, I have a feeling many that voted no probably don't even participate here in the Lounge, so I see no probs with allowing this thread to continue. Just try to keep it civil and professional please.

And my 1/2 cent. While I still like Obama as a person, and I wish he could have gotten our country on the right track, it seems he has been very ineffective. I think his lack of experience in running a business, or governmental business, is showing.

...best regards

[vintagetoppsguy]

Thanks, Leon. I agree with you about Obama, and the fact of the matter is he just didn't get the economy back on track (and to think he'll do so in the next 15 months before the election is absurd). I believe that he inherited a mess from Bush, but blaming Bush at this point is just ridiculous. He's been in office long enough that it's HIS responsibility now - not Bush's, not the Arab Spring, not the natural disasters - it's BHO's problem.

I don't know of any job in the world where we could blame our predecessor from two and a half years ago for the current problems in our position today. If I tried that at my job I would probably be fired.

[tiger8mush]

i agree he inherited a problem and i agree he is not solving the problem.

something is wrong when we bail out the rich for making bad business decisions.
something is wrong when gov't is so big that decisions can't be made quickly nor efficiently nor correctly.
something is wrong when "the american way" has become an ideal of not working and letting the gov't provide for you.
something is wrong when we stick our noses into other countries business trying to overthrow their ideas of gov't with ours.
something is wrong with consistently fighting these decade-long wars.
something is wrong when big US corporations would rather outsource than keep money in the US.
something is wrong when we discover we've reached the max on our credit card and the solution is to just increase it and come up with a 10 year plan to eventually maybe think about perhaps sorta coming close to a balanced budget maybe if things work out the way we plan if we want to.
something is wrong when i open a box of caramel candy and don't get a fresh 1910 E98 on top!!!!

okay, maybe the last one has nothing to do with politics but you catch my drift
i don't know enough about every single thing going on in politics, but i know there is enough going wrong that its pretty freakin obvious that people in Washington DC want to play politics instead of doing what is best for the country. They are worried about donkey vs elephant. Instead of making good rational decisions they stick to their party lines. It is hurting us and will hurt even more if changes aren't made.

[barrysloate]

Maybe these problems are beyond solving. Maybe this is the new look for America.

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Maybe these problems are beyond solving. Maybe this is the new look for America.

[teetwoohsix]

Great posts guys- and thanks Leon for letting us talk a little politics on this thread.

I may take a beating on this, hopefully not- but right now I'm liking Ron Paul the most. I have a feeling that anyone other than him will keep us on this downward spiral, left or right. Time for a real "change"- hopefully for the better this time.

Sincerely, Clayton

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

After 900+ days in office, Obama finally has a plan to reduce unemployment and boost the economy. He’s going to grace us with this big announcement… next month (after his much needed vacation). Yippee! Just like Chris Mathews, I feel a thrill going up my leg.

Looks like Obama has scheduled his jobs speech for next Wednesday night...the same night as the Republican debate. Very classy.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Speaking of raising the debt limit, I found this video on Youtube from 2008 where Obama calls Bush unpatriotic for adding $4 Trillion in debt during his 8 years in office. Funny how Obama has already incurred that same amount in only two and a half years. That big eared moron has no right to call anybody unpatriotic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

That big eared moron has no right to call anybody unpatriotic.

maybe he meant Bush was unpatriotic for ONLY adding $4T in debt, when he could've done SO MUCH MORE!!!! cuz you know, adding debt and printing more currency helps stimulate the economy, at least that seems to be Bernanke's strategy.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

cuz you know, adding debt and printing more currency helps stimulate the economy, at least that seems to be Bernanke's strategy.

The funny thing is that I believe his job speech on Thursday will be nothing more than a call for more stimulus dollars. Opps, I said a bad word. According to Nancy Pelosi, we're not supposed to use the word stimulus anymore. It should now be referred to as "job creation." Yeah, right! Like the first one created so many jobs that we need another one. Unbelievable.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...ulus-word.html

[vintagetoppsguy]

Check this out from the left wing nut jobs:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...-daniel-foster

How sick is that?!?! Of course you won't hear anything about it in the liberal media.

[barrysloate]

Might it be time for this thread to be locked?