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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: T E
I've got another oddball group here. 2 HOFs and one "who?" Lindstrom is 4 1/2" by 3 3/8" or so, Traynor is 5 3/8" by 3 1/4" and Mann is 3 1/4" by 2" |
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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: Jeff Drum
You appear to have a Nat. Chicle "Fine Pen" of Traynor, a Kashin Publishing card (bottom right). Not sure of the other without seeing the back. |
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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: T E
Thanks Jeff, here is reverse of Mann card... |
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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: Todd Schultz
is a Henry Johnson Confectioner's stamped card, considered by some to be stamped on w575-1, by some to be stamped on E121, and by some to have been stamped decades after the fact, on either an original or reprinted card. |
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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: T E
Looking into my outdated 1999 Sports Collectors Digest Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards, I don't see Mann listed in these issues. Am I missing it? |
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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: fkw
The Traynor is a R313, The Lindstrom is a R316 Kashin. |
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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
fkw is telling you true stuff... |
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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: leon
Personally, I can't tell from the scan about the E135-like card. Out of the 50-60 Johnson Confection cards I have seen I have never seen one on an E135 front. That makes me think it probably isn't good, as Frank does. I still have a little trouble distinguishing the W575-1 vs the E121 blank backs stock....I sort of always thought those were W575's....I will have to get mine out tomorrow and check them. At any rate get a magnifying glass and check the white borders for a dot pattern. If there is one it's a reprint. Even if there is not you need to check a few other things. Personally, I haven't been able to do too good with fluorescence but I know it works on some substances/marks. Wouldn't hurt to see how it fluoresces. I also like to look at the gloss, though I have almost been faked out on that before. I believe uneven gloss would be difficult to fabricate so if it has that it could be real. Lastly the card should be smooth. I like to hold the card and feel the paper to see if it is. I won a nice #1 Fro Joy (portrait) on ebay last week for $26....got it yesterday and the gloss is uneven and the card is smooth as a baby's behind. It feels and looks real and doesn't have any dots in the white. My guess is about 98% or more of the Fro Joys on ebay are fake. This one isn't though...Good luck with these.. |
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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: fkw
These cards are brought up on this message board about 1-3 times a year, usually its a Kendig backstamp, and usually after one hits eBay. |
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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: leon
I owned the Oodles chocolate fake card....bought it from a good seller on ebay and sent it to SGC where they deemed it counterfeit. I returned it and next thing I see it shows up on ebay in a PSA7 holder. The seller pulled the card as it should not have been in a holder. He said he actually sent it in by mistake with some others and it got holdered. I spoke with him at length at this last National (where I picked up a recent ebay win from him) and he told me there was a huge controversy at PSA about it. I absolutely believe this guy as he seems very honest (and did all the right things too) Something about a lawsuit and all kinds of crap after the fact. Really a big stink about it. It is fake and it did get into a PSA 7 holder. For the record, while I think they all make mistakes, I don't think too many fake cards get graded by the big 4 grading companies. This was a fluke they knew nothing about but really should have caught the weird paper. These cards all have that "rough" texture, and that is what made me think the Oodles was fake too. I have owned many fake cards and many of the 1928 era have the rough feel to them. regards |
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Need help ID of three different Prewar cards or premiums...
Posted By: T E
I'm assuming this Mann card is fake. I bought it on eBay several years ago, don't think I paid much for it. It will go into my Hall of Shame. |
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