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There has been a $750,000 bid retraction, a $200,000 bid retraction and a $176,000 bid retraction -- all from different bidders. In addition, a $500,000 bid from a seller with "0" feedback was canceled.

Seems like a tough break for the buyer trying to make his first buy on eBay with a $500,000 bid.
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The card is altered. LOL. There are 10 made not 1. It's not even close to a rookie. I DON'T GET IT.
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I was just going to post about this... Crazy!! I fail to see the logic in this. I know there's only 10 but what would a PSA 9 or 10 go for?? I'll stick to vintage.
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hi res scans likely have something to do with the spirited bidding
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Why is this selling for $599,000 when cards from the same series with the same hype are selling for $3500.

Not to impose any logical reasoning into the analysis.
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I put in a snipe of 750K but I'm drawing the line not one penny more.
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There has been a $750,000 bid retraction, a $200,000 bid retraction and a $176,000 bid retraction -- all from different bidders. In addition, a $500,000 bid from a seller with "0" feedback was canceled.

Seems like a tough break for the buyer trying to make his first buy on eBay with a $500,000 bid.
So those bidders will never bid on PWCC auctions ever again right?
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Why is this selling for $599,000 when cards from the same series with the same hype are selling for $3500.

Not to impose any logical reasoning into the analysis.
Jordan rules.
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How many people can drop a cool half mil on a card? One card.

Out of all the people on this message board how many do you think there are? Less than 10?

How is this even close to real? To think it would even be worth 100k is insanity. 1996? I mean. Ok. I bought cards in packs. The no name frank thomas isn’t even close to that price or any other big card at the time.

Donruss Elite cards, 89 upper deck promo cards. Can anyone name any other legendary cards with low pop numbers.. This is just ridiculous.

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...and now it's ended. Error in the listing.
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PWCC pulled it to relist Wednesday on a 7-day auction with pre-approved bidders. They couldn't see this result coming?
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Metal-...Y0u7:rk:1:pf:0

And even with the pre approved bidder list we already have a retraction.
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I don't collect modern basketball cards, but have heard of these. Not sure why they're so popular but they all go for crazy money relative to other issues from the same time period.
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I would rather have the PSA 10 Diana Taurasi rookie than this card. I think the price is beyond crazy. Hold the card for ten years and you will probably lose 95+% of your investment.
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I would rather have the PSA 10 Diana Taurasi rookie than this card. I think the price is beyond crazy. Hold the card for ten years and you will probably lose 95+% of your investment.
It's dirt cheap compared to where the first auction was after a day.
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I would rather have the PSA 10 Diana Taurasi rookie than this card. I think the price is beyond crazy. Hold the card for ten years and you will probably lose 95+% of your investment.
The set has been very popular for a while now. A modern holy grail. I would place a bet on the under at even a 25% decline in 10 years. 95% wont happen.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Metal-...Y0u7:rk:1:pf:0

And even with the pre approved bidder list we already have a retraction.
That was me. Once you guys outed it I had no chance
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The set has been very popular for a while now. A modern holy grail. I would place a bet on the under at even a 25% decline in 10 years. 95% wont happen.
A Skybox chase card near the end of Jordan’s career; sounds like beanie babies to me. Not to mentioned that it couldn’t get a number grade. Needless to say, I won’t be bidding.

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The PMG are the cards that everyone wants and the green ones are exponentially more. There are 10 of these - less than most other rare cards out there. So the sky’s the limit in terms of what the next one sells for. But if history is any judge - it will be more than this one. And the one after that will be more.
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But I can't get past the fact that it's altered. So what does a 8, 9 or 10 go for? Exponentially more???
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"Despite the PSA Auth assessment this example is easily among the finest PMG Green MJ's in the world "

Do the writers ever read their own stuff and wonder what the ___ they were thinking? They should.
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Do the writers ever read their own stuff and wonder what the ___ they were thinking? They should.

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But I can't get past the fact that it's altered. So what does a 8, 9 or 10 go for? Exponentially more???
Doesn't even matter. They never come up for sale.

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But I can't get past the fact that it's altered. So what does a 8, 9 or 10 go for? Exponentially more???
Only 10 were made. I'd be surprised if the grade matters as much as it does on most cards.
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Honestly I’m not surprised if this card eventually ends up selling for $750k. This is the holy grail for basketball collectors. 90s insert basketball cards go for big money and the Precious Metal Gems Green is the best of the best. Not saying I would ever spend that kind of money but you can always pick up a Jordan rookie, but you can’t pick one of those any day. I believe only 3 have surfaced.
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Honestly I’m not surprised if this card eventually ends up selling for $750k. This is the holy grail for basketball collectors. 90s insert basketball cards go for big money and the Precious Metal Gems Green is the best of the best. Not saying I would ever spend that kind of money but you can always pick up a Jordan rookie, but you can’t pick one of those any day. I believe only 3 have surfaced.
I don't think people understand or know about these cards or their scarcity. and at this point, this card is kind of like a Mantle rookie card. no matter what the grade, even altered, will go for a higher than normal amount vs another regular card in the same grade. especially one like this, that has higher PSA grade eye appeal.
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I don't think people understand or know about these cards or their scarcity. and at this point, this card is kind of like a Mantle rookie card. no matter what the grade, even altered, will go for a higher than normal amount vs another regular card in the same grade. especially one like this, that has higher PSA grade eye appeal.
Agreed, most net54 members don’t know about the significance of this card but on the modern card forums like Blowout or Freedomcardboard this card is the equivalet of a T206 Ty Cobb with Ty Cobb back or a new Doyle error surfacing. This card is the most significant 90s cards across all sports. 90s inserts, especially basketball, and somewhat baseball, can go for big money. 90s might have been a junk wax era but in the mid to late 90s, rare inserts are highly collectable for people now in their 20’s-40’s.
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So they took an abundant base card and made a few of them green? Sorry not impressed.
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So they took an abundant base card and made a few of them green? Sorry not impressed.
Lmao. I was thinking the exact same thing. So what. It’s green and there’s only a handful that exist. There are only a handful (well, slightly more than a handful) of M101 Ruth rookies too. I’d buy the Ruth if I spent that kind of money on one card. Just saying.
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So they took an abundant base card and made a few of them green? Sorry not impressed.
So they made a lot of Red Cobb's but only a few Drum...Impressed?
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A fool and his money are soon separated
Jordan cards aren't what I choose to collect, either. But I don't agree with the "fool and his money..." opinion. I don't even know a whole lot about modern inserts, but I know that card is a holy grail for modern collectors/Jordan collectors just as much as any pre-war white whale is to people on here.

IMO, I can't see any way that card goes down 95 percent in 10 years. It is an insanely rare Jordan card; those don't crash in value.
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But why is it a grail? There are one of ones, this is one of 10. I wouldn't make fun of someone for buying it (mainly because they obviously have enough money to not give a crap about my opinion lol) but that doesn't mean I get it.
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So they made a lot of Red Cobb's but only a few Drum...Impressed?
I would not use the word significant. Impressive, maybe. How much this card will sell for is impressive. A card does not become significant because of the sale prices. They become significant for other factors.

A t206 is a significant card because its part of a set that changed the card world and collecting. This mid ninties Jordan is not even close to that significant.

A Donruss elite card or a 1992 topps gold card is more significant than this Jordan. The Brian Taylor card.

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I don't think people understand or know about these cards or their scarcity. and at this point, this card is kind of like a Mantle rookie card. no matter what the grade, even altered, will go for a higher than normal amount vs another regular card in the same grade. especially one like this, that has higher PSA grade eye appeal.
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So they took an abundant base card and made a few of them green? Sorry not impressed.
Is it any different than a tobacco card with a different back?

as the other poster said, there are some really tough 90s insert cards out there, very scare that are not widely known.
Cool card, hope the seller got his money.

Plus, anything Jordan is red hot.

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Lmao. I was thinking the exact same thing. So what. It’s green and there’s only a handful that exist. There are only a handful (well, slightly more than a handful) of M101 Ruth rookies too. I’d buy the Ruth if I spent that kind of money on one card. Just saying.
I know plenty of people that would say the same about any early baseball card that is being said about this Green Jordan. Heck, I married one of them.

Not that I was even aware of this card or it's significance.
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So they made a lot of Red Cobb's but only a few Drum...Impressed?
More so than with the Jordans, unless unbeknownst to me few Drums were produced for the express purpose of creating a collectible in short supply. To me, limited production modern insert cards are all artificially scarce.
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So every short print Jordan (or LaBron now) chase card becomes significant and will sell for six figures? Are you listening to yourself?
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Is it any different than a tobacco card with a different back?

as the other poster said, there are some really tough 90s insert cards out there, very scare that are not widely known.
Cool card, hope the seller got his money.

Plus, anything Jordan is red hot.
Anything except my 1985 Gatorade BGS 9 that I can't give away.
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So every short print Jordan (or LaBron now) chase card becomes significant and will sell for six figures? Are you listening to yourself?
Only the metallic green ones, bro.
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Anything with Jordan on the Bulls is on fire. From what I understand, he stopped licensing his image on the Bulls in 2010. His stuff with the Wizards isnt as popular. Like his gatorade bgs 9
That card is tough tough tough. I wouldn't drop that sort of cake on it, but that doesnt make it significant. Cool card nonetheless.
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Not Jordan but I cant wait to see what a Mirror Gold Jeter PSA 10 fetches after the HOF voting.
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Anything with Jordan on the Bulls is on fire. From what I understand, he stopped licensing his image on the Bulls in 2010. His stuff with the Wizards isnt as popular. Like his gatorade bgs 9
That card is tough tough tough. I wouldn't drop that sort of cake on it, but that doesnt make it significant. Cool card nonetheless.
Gatorade is a 1985 Bulls card I don't follow.
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