OMG: Jose Fernandez Killed in Boating Accident

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have no idea about Fernandez, but for some people coke can be a terrible drug, I had a very close friend in law school who really struggled with it and he was anything but a terrible person.

That can be true and to boot he probably not responsible in some part for the deaths of two people.

Terrible people make terrible choices, unless you can point to someone we can all agree is a terrible person and see if that person did not make terrible choices.

I contend that all terrible people make terrible choices but not all people that make terrible choices are terrible people..

[ALR-bishop]

I am sending this one to Jack Handey with a note saying "top this one"

[KCRfan1]

I remember hearing an interview years ago, from a former MLB player.

He said that starting pitchers were more susceptible to substance or alcohol abuse. They pitch once a week, twice at best. That leaves A LOT of downtime, something that most position players, since they will play everyday, do not have.

As mentioned previously, life is all about choices though.

[glynparson]

and yes I mean EVERYONE has made a terrible choice at one point or another in their life. That does not mean any of us deserved to die for a moment of stupidity. I feel for all those that lost their lives these new revelations do not change my feelings that this was tragic.

[darwinbulldog]

So most of you guys are on board with contracausal free will? Perhaps it's best if I just post about baseball cards.

[ramram]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

So most of you guys are on board with contracausal free will? Perhaps it's best if I just post about baseball cards.

Oh man, you made be have to look that word up! Now I gotta figure a way to use that word on my wife tonight.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

I remember hearing an interview years ago, from a former MLB player.

He said that starting pitchers were more susceptible to substance or alcohol abuse. They pitch once a week, twice at best. That leaves A LOT of downtime, something that most position players, since they will play everyday, do not have.

As mentioned previously, life is all about choices though.

Thats a good point..i bet that probably applies to kickers and punters in football too as they have a lot of downtime and its not like there is much of a playbook to look at.

[quinnsryche]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

I remember hearing an interview years ago, from a former MLB player.

He said that starting pitchers were more susceptible to substance or alcohol abuse. They pitch once a week, twice at best. That leaves A LOT of downtime, something that most position players, since they will play everyday, do not have.

As mentioned previously, life is all about choices though.

Tim Raines, Alan Wiggins, Ron LeFlore, Ken Caminiti, Eddie Mathews, Miguel Cabrera, Daryl Strawberry, Lenny Dykstra, Billy Martin, Mickey Mantle, Jimmie Foxx etc. are all known to have been substance abusers (drugs or alcohol) and none of them were pitchers.
I don't agree with that statement one bit.

[insidethewrapper]

I guess this qualifies Jose to be a a US Posage Stamp someday. Just like the drug addict Elvis. My brother was a big stamp collector until they started putting all these "stars" etc on stamps.

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by quinnsryche

Tim Raines, Alan Wiggins, Ron LeFlore, Ken Caminiti, Eddie Mathews, Miguel Cabrera, Daryl Strawberry, Lenny Dykstra, Billy Martin, Mickey Mantle, Jimmie Foxx etc. are all known to have been substance abusers (drugs or alcohol) and none of them were pitchers.
I don't agree with that statement one bit.

We'll agree to disagree. i can come up with a list of pitchers as well, but I'm not sure what that solves. I'm sure there are countless players who never made the news or headlines, that had abuses which were kept quiet and privately handled.

The radio interview was with a former player, and I'll give him the benefit of insight to the matter.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

We'll agree to disagree. i can come up with a list of pitchers as well, but I'm not sure what that solves. I'm sure there are countless players who never made the news or headlines, that had abuses which were kept quiet and privately handled.

The radio interview was with a former player, and I'll give him the benefit of insight to the matter.

theres also a bunch more position players on teams than starting pitchers..

[packs]

I don't think I believe that at all. It sounds like some idle hands rhetoric.

[glynparson]

It is not just rhetoric it is actually backed up with facts it's why things like midnight basketball and thriving job markets, after school programs, and community centres that are thriving help to cut down on crime. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize it's harder to get in trouble when you are doing something productive or positive.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

That can be true and to boot he probably not responsible in some part for the deaths of two people.

Terrible people make terrible choices, unless you can point to someone we can all agree is a terrible person and see if that person did not make terrible choices.

I contend that all terrible people make terrible choices but not all people that make terrible choices are terrible people..

and not all people make terrible posts, but some do!