Small Traditions Scam of 1990 Topps USA1 George Bush

[filmmaker]

I just can't believe this world.
Heres the quick story. Small Traditions auctioned off a Pair of Signed 1990 Topps USA1 George Bush Cards. They were both PERSONALIZED. I was the back bidder. This was 4/30/2017.

Joe Orlando at PSA tweeted an image of a 1990 Topps George Bush coming in to PSA on June 5th.

July 2, Today, I woke up and saw a George Bush Signed 1990 Topps USA1 on eBay being sold by Small Traditions. They are asking $49,999 for a 6.5 (The sister card) The PERSONALIZATION is Removed on that card too. The same cards that were sold thru their auction site, months ago.

What I find bothersome is The Auction Company Small Traditions first offered the cards. Kept changing photos of the auction during auction hours and ultimately no close up pictures were attached when the item sold. No close up photos. There used to be. So they were setting this whole scam up.

What I also find bothersome is How can these cards be sent to PSA and not be detected for chemicals of taking the personalization off.
I don't know what to think, but its possible that theres an inside job at PSA.

Do a little digging if you care to, you'll find confirmation of everything stated.


Original Auction House Listing: http://www.smalltraditions.com/1990_...lot32222.aspx#

Current eBay Listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Topps-U.../362026250192?

[Rich Klein]

As per board rules, you must have your name by your post. Leon has added that! My comment is now no longer needed

Rich

[bnorth]

Writing is very easy to remove from cards and is done all the time. As far as PSA knowing, people give them way too much credit. They are grading a card to make a profit they are not a forensic laboratory.

[filmmaker]

An auction company, Small Traditions, sells Personalized Cards thru their own auction site. Then the same auction house, Small Traditions, Sells the same cards but at this point NON PERSONALIZED, thru their other outlet, eBay.

I'm just bringing the facts.

So for the initial auction, Small Traditions was bidding against me in the original auction that they were personalized. Not only were they selling the cards, they were bidding on them as well. This is deeper than just removing signatures from cardboard.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by filmmaker

An auction company, Small Traditions, sells Personalized Cards thru their own auction site. Then the same auction house, Small Traditions, Sells the same cards but at this point NON PERSONALIZED, thru their other outlet, eBay.

I'm just bringing the facts.

So for the initial auction, Small Traditions was bidding against me in the original auction that they were personalized. Not only were they selling the cards, they were bidding on them as well. This is deeper than just removing signatures from cardboard.

I am sure we all get it. The problem is that this kind of stuff is just common now and sadly no one cares anymore.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I am sure we all get it. The problem is that this kind of stuff is just common now and sadly no one cares anymore.

It is common, but that doesn't mean no one cares. I wont bid with them anymore, thanks for the information.

We all should care, I do not like taking it in the ass...

S Suckow

[Peter_Spaeth]

If ink was removed, should PSA only have slabbed it authentic?

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

We all should care, I do not like taking it in the ass...

S Suckow

Spoilsport

[maximus35]

[QUOTE=filmmaker;1676649]I just can't believe this world.
Heres the quick story. Small Traditions auctioned off a Pair of Signed 1990 Topps USA1 George Bush Cards. They were both PERSONALIZED. I was the back bidder. This was 4/30/2017.

So how much did this signed version end up fetching?