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Old 07-14-2016, 08:56 PM
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Default Interesting T206 Heinie Wagner with missing team name

I found this card in an assorted lot that I just picked up. I immediately noticed the lack of team name, but I assumed that it was just paper loss as the card is obviously in terrible condition. Upon closer inspection, however, it appears that the team name is completely missing from the printing as there is virtually no paper loss in the area in which it should appear. I have looked closely with a loupe and there is no trace of it whatsoever. It also appears that this card is missing red ink and possibly other color passes as well. I have seen a couple of T206 examples in which the entire bottom caption is missing, but I don't believe I've ever seen one in which only the name or team was missing such as this. Any other thoughts/opinions on this interesting card?
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Old 07-14-2016, 10:32 PM
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Default Whole thing looks suspect to me

Color of the font, and the fact that all the letters are the same size leads me to believe that the whole thing is fake. The name should have initial caps (first letter larger than the rest of the cap letters) and color is just a bit too black looking.

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Default Interesting T206 Heinie Wagner with missing team name

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Color of the font, and the fact that all the letters are the same size leads me to believe that the whole thing is fake. The name should have initial caps (first letter larger than the rest of the cap letters) and color is just a bit too black looking.



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I think it's real. The letters appear to be the same size on this card. Here's an example from eBay:




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Looks to me like an original card with paper loss where the "Boston Amer" would normally be.
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:09 PM
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Thanks for the responses and opinions. The card is definitely authentic. It was part of a large lot that was an original collection that I purchased. All cards were low grade, but unquestionably original. There is no paper loss at all on the bottom border where the team name would be. You can tell in the close up photo that the surface layer of paper is intact in that spot.
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To me it looks like it was just erased off or buffed off or something. If you look at the larger scan, the area right below the border looks a bit brighter than the paper below, leading me to believe that some alteration was made to the area below.
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I collect anything and everything Heinie Wagner and I have never come across a T206 of his that looks like this.

Great find!

Want to sell it? HAHA!

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Color of the font, and the fact that all the letters are the same size leads me to believe that the whole thing is fake. The name should have initial caps (first letter larger than the rest of the cap letters) and color is just a bit too black looking.

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Why would someone fake a Heinie Wagner lol. And let alone fake one to the point where it would be a $20 card ..... maybe
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Default erasure

probably a NY American fan who tried to get rid of all traces of Boston from the card.
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Very common to change team names
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Simply erased. Look at the black border directly above the name. It shows signs of erasure as well. If it was simply missing the team name BOSTON, the border would still be black and consistent....
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It's also missing all the red on it, though.....it is in a tad rough shape.
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Why would someone fake a Heinie Wagner lol. And let alone fake one to the point where it would be a $20 card ..... maybe
Good ol' Heinie won four World Series - three more than the other Wagner and Ty Cobb combined. So maybe...
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