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Old 08-07-2014, 05:30 AM
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Default OK T206 EXPERTS- How Many T206 survive today????

Spinning off of the 3500 + T206 find and Rick Q....

how many T206 do you believe survive today???
my guess- 2 million +

has this poll been done before

anyway, I d love to hear thoughts......

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Old 08-07-2014, 06:58 AM
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Someone else had mentioned that the Chesapeake is really a collection, not a find. I have sold right at 3000 T206s in the last 4 years, so it doesn't take a long time to acquire that volume these days; although to hold them is impressive. Regardless it's a lot of cards hitting the market at once.

I'd guess that there's in the 2M range as well... plus or minus a quarter million.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:09 AM
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The T206 set is the perfect storm. I think it's just as likely that 3500 more cards on the market is more likely to increase interest and therefore prices than it is to decrease because the impact to supply is minimal on a per card basis.

There are several reasons T206s have enduring popularity, a few of them being:

1) There is enough supply that on some level they can be actively collected
2) They are a pretty card
3) There are a lot of variations
4) There are some truly difficult/iconic cards
5) They are old
6) They have an exceptional player selection
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:28 AM
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Spinning off of the 3500 + T206 find and Rick Q....

how many T206 do you believe survive today???
my guess- 2 million +

has this poll been done before

anyway, I d love to hear thoughts......
Hey Johnny,

I think 2MM + is a good estimate. If you look at Frank's Monster Number thread (and I'm sure that some cards have moved between collections since some monster numbers were originally posted), there's about 40,000 T206's listed. And that's just a small subset of Net54 members who chose to participate in the thread...
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:41 AM
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One person had amassed 1400 T206s in just over 3 years of distribution according to the other find that was posted last week.

This collection was said to be in its original state and was maintained and collected by the original owner, who was the consignor's grand father.

So that was one person. Multiply that by the millions of other people who smoked cigarettes over that period.

Even if just one million people had received 100 cards over three years of distribution, that's 100,000,000 cards. If only 5 percent survived today that accounts for 5,000,000 cards.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:44 AM
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One person had amassed 1400 T206s in just over 3 years of distribution according to the other find that was posted last week.

This collection was said to be in its original state and was maintained and collected by the original owner, who was the consignor's grand father.

So that was one person. Multiply that by the millions of other people who smoked cigarettes over that period.

Even if just one million people had received 100 cards over three years of distribution, that's 100,000,000 cards. If only 5 percent survived today that accounts for 5,000,000 cards.
this seems like a reasonable estimate...but I'm guessing fewer that 5m survive today.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:50 AM
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Default Estimate from a well-known astronomer

After seeing all of T206s at Nationals I would estimate "billions and billions"
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:54 AM
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Default this is great input.....

i have been dreaming of populations of T206 for years....and to imagine a lot of my scraps are "one of a kinds" or "twins" out of literally millions of T206 cards.....or owning a few variations or rare backs relative to the total population is just mind blowing

makes me happy
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Default OK T206 EXPERTS- How Many T206 survive today????

Around 3,567,324.75, there are a lot of chewed up ones leading to the actual number not being whole.
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Old 08-09-2014, 05:19 AM
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we could do a T206 census....like Pete said
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I'd naturally believe HOF member cards would have a higher survival rate than commons.

Thoughts!?
And a higher submission rate than common cards, IMHO, all things (rare backs, Titus, etc.) considered.

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Do we get a free T-shirt from Leon if we guess the correct amount or closest to it without going over?
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The 1.6M estimate with 3,000 cards per common card in my opinion seems too high.

I'd really like to see someone talented crunch the numbers draw a total estimate based on the HOF member cards most submitted for grading. I think thats a better sample to use for calculating what is surviving. Maybe even a wakeup call on how many are in existence if the number is less than 1.6M since I'd naturally believe HOF member cards would have a higher survival rate than commons.

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I actually think this number could be low. The percentage of graded vs non graded cards overall would skew heavily to non graded. There are so many T206's out there.
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There are undoubtedly several million T206 cards surviving. It was the 1987 Topps set of the age on steriods. I've handled approximately a hundred thousand.
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