52 Mantle - Authentic or Fake?

[ChrisNTx]

So I came across this and wondering if it is authentic or fake? It is the Type A Mantle
Wanted to get others thoughts who are more experienced than I

[Bestdj777]

If a 52 Topps Mantle has a bit of wear, I can usually venture a decent guess as to whether it is authentic. I am far from an expert when they are this clean, as I just do not know the intricacies. That said, I would not feel comfortable with this card. To me, it looks like it was just printed.

[sycks22]

Doesn't look good to me.

[Gr8Beldini]

Fake

[ALR-bishop]

The scan is not very helpful. Is this a card you have, or one someone is offering to you ?

If you have it, just get it graded or see if someone like Levi Bleam will take a look at it for you.

If someone is offering it to you, it makes no sense that the seller would not have a card that looked that good, if authentic, graded first

[itjclarke]

IMO looks a bit fishy, with red flags (ungraded, bad photos), but some big things like the black border alignment and Yankee logo look good. Would a chance to take it out of that top loader for a closer look/feel

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I don't know much about 52T. How can you tell it's a fake from that pic alone.

[Volod]

Maybe just my failing eyesight, but does the card not have untypically wide borders, both front and back?

[pawpawdiv9]

wish it was on ascanner, plus the sleeve makes it hard. I say FAKE.
The black outlines dont look right. Plus what looks like water stains, cant tell if background is blue/green tinting.
As for the back, i was only aware the black stiching area was the only dark area, looks like the stats area is the same darkness.
Other than that, theres not much i really can see from those bad pics.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

wish it was on ascanner, plus the sleeve makes it hard. I say FAKE.
The black outlines dont look right. Plus what looks like water stains, cant tell if background is blue/green tinting.
As for the back, i was only aware the black stiching area was the only dark area, looks like the stats area is the same darkness.
Other than that, theres not much i really can see from those bad pics.

I actually thought the black border looked pretty good (slightly misaligned at corners, etc).. But my only knowledge is based what I've read on line. Would be curious to know if there's something I'm not seeing. Agree, it's frustrating it's not a scan, or at least a pic outside of top loader.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by Volod

Maybe just my failing eyesight, but does the card not have untypically wide borders, both front and back?

That was the very first thing that raised a red flag for me. Then the back, which could be the angle of the camera but even then I don't think the back borders would be that much skewed (as compared to the front).

Fake. And a card like that?...all my cards are raw and I'm not even a raw v holder stickler...but if I were selling it I wouldn't shove it in a banged up scratched toploader. Also, and I can't really tell w/o a Luckey (hi Leon) quarter, but I don't think that loader is the proper size for a 52T, more like later 50's, and beyond, cards -- in other words, the top of the card would be sticking out the top of the toploader. for a Topps. And believe me, I have enough of them sticking out, which is my personal laziness, but not what I would do with a card like that, were it real.

[NateMack]

The border on the back has too large a gap on the top AND the bottom. All my 52's I looked at have small borders on the top and bottom if they are centered, and if they are not centered and have one larger border, then the opposite is very small or non existent.

I couldn't tell if it is real or fake without actually seeing the card in person, but I would be leery, very leery. Is this an online transaction? Do you live near each other to check it out in person? Is the asking price as high as it should be for such a nice card or is the seller "giving you a break" on the price? Nothing like the feel test. Also the 50s Topps cards have a pretty distinct smell.

Just my 2 cents...

[thenextlevel]

Card looks fake.

[bobsbbcards]

Here's what the back of one should look like (off eBay) next to the back of the one in question. It is clearly NOT real.

[itjclarke]

Ok, that one sold me.

If within reasonable driving distance, I'm still all for seeing it in person. If nothing else, will help to identify anything that might give it away (thickness, feel, visible pixels, etc).

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by bobsbbcards

Here's what the back of one should look like (off eBay) next to the back of the one in question. It is clearly NOT real.

I still can't tell the difference. Can you educate me?