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Old 02-25-2013, 08:32 PM
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Default PHOTO MYSTERY SOLVED. Joss, HOPKINS, Rhoades, and McGuire
Can anyone please identify the mystery player? http://www.sportingoregon.com/p58119...72b2#h402b72b2 The message on the back may provide a clue: "We have the double X [double cross, presumably] on Benny here. Doc." Thanks!
THANKS TO HELP FROM THE GOOD FOLKS AT THE HALL OF FAME, THE ANSWER ON THE MYSTERY PLAYER IS THAT IT IS...NOT A PLAYER! IT IS BEN HOPKINS, A CLEVELAND BUSINESSMAN. SO, THE POSTCARD SHOWS, FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, DEACON MCGUIRE, DUSTY RHOADES, BEN HOPKINS, AND ADDIE JOSS.
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I'm going with heinie berger.
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Thanks, Sean, I appreciate the input. Berger was originally my thinking, too, but the confirmed Heine (the second image) seems to have eyes more close together and a more oval face. Thoughts?
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Not Berger. This guy is not easy to identify.
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Put away the bell - these are 2 different humans (Leibhardt on the right).
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Can anyone please identify the mystery player? http://www.sportingoregon.com/p58119...72b2#h402b72b2 The message on the back may provide a clue: "We have the double X [double cross, presumably] on Benny here. Doc." Thanks!
THANKS TO HELP FROM THE GOOD FOLKS AT THE HALL OF FAME, THE ANSWER ON THE MYSTERY PLAYER IS THAT IT IS...NOT A PLAYER! IT IS BEN HOPKINS, A CLEVELAND BANKER AND BUSINESSMAN AFTER WHOM THE CLEVELAND HOPKINS AIRPORT IS NAMED. SO, THE POSTCARD SHOWS, FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, DEACON MCGUIRE, DUSTY RHOADES, BEN HOPKINS, AND ADDIE JOSS.
Hmmm. The Cleveland airport was named after William R. Hopkins. I can find no reference to him as Benny. Did HoF provide any comparison photos?
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The comparison I found is this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_R._Hopkins . The HOF's pic has noted on the back, Jim McGuire, Dusty Rhoades, Ben Hopkins - Cleveland businessman & banker (Cleveland's airport is named after him, Addie Joss. I assume Hopkins was nicknamed "Ben" because the Wikipedia pic and the one below are consistent. [ADDED NOTE: I just saw that a Ben F. Hopkins, a Cleveland businessman, tried to buy the team in 1915].
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The wikipedia image of William R. Hopkins (founder of Cleveland Airport) does not match this guy. William R. Hopkins had a very turned up nose - nostrils very visible.

Ben Hopkins is a different person.
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