I was told it was a reprint..

[Leon]

Sellers could just say it IS a reprint and not prey on people thinking it could be real. And Shoeless's signature on back never looked so good...The seller says it is his wife's signature and Joe couldn't write or read. But we know Joe could write a little bit due to the items we see. If I were in the market for a reprint I would at least get a nice conditioned one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1915-M101-Jo...item25ae725114


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[bnorth]

I am still in the camp of nothing wrong with that listing. Yes seller talks up the item but so do most sellers. There is a nice picture of the back of the slab stating it is a reproduction for display purposes. If someone buys one of these thinking it is real they get what they deserve.

I actually like the items and will probably bid on one of their listings. As a display piece they have to be worth at least $20. I know I make custom cards that I sometimes put in slabs and I get more than $20 for them.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I am still in the camp of nothing wrong with that listing. Yes seller talks up the item but so do most sellers. There is a nice picture of the back of the slab stating it is a reproduction for display purposes. If someone buys one of these thinking it is real they get what they deserve.

I actually like the items and will probably bid on one of their listings. As a display piece they have to be worth at least $20. I know I make custom cards that I sometimes put in slabs and I get more than $20 for them.

Sounds like a great item for you. Good luck if you go for it and glad I could help .

[nolemmings]

He did not buy that card many years ago as he says, if he ever bought it at all. It is not a reprint, it is a fake, a counterfeit, generated by a laser printer. Many of his other listings are "slabbed" with a label that makes no mention of a reproduction. He likely slabbed them himself, and as you suggested Leon, he knew all along that these were not real-- he did not need to be told.

[drcy]

The whole thing is pretty stupid. How's that for a summation?

The homemade Joe Jackson with reprinted signature of his wife on back is rather ludicrous (Is someone working on the master set of reprinted player's wifes signatures?), but I do agree that when you look at some of his other items it gets shady and problematic. Includes 'fascimile' cut signatures 'for display purposes.' Though the holders do say reproduction on back.

As I often say to beginning collectors, when a seller says something is a reprint believe him. Sellers make up that something's real not fake.

If the items sell for the min bids, I doubt it was worth the maker's effort. I would think he'd be making less than minimum wage or even losing money overall on those creations.

[rocarroll]

What a complete piece of garbage this item is. I can't believe someone actually posted on here that they like this and would buy it. He must be the paper mâché making version of Tony Romo from the direct tv commercials making custom cards. Real collectors are about as interested in buying someone's custom card "art work" as they are my 3 year old's crayon scribbles from day care. C'mon man

[Kevin.Shenker]

I spoke to him and he updated every listing.

[pokerplyr80]

We have discussed similar cases in other threads and my response is the same for this one. I have no problem with Ben or anyone else buying a reprint as long as they know what they are getting. The problem is when sellers try to say or insinuate that there is a chance, however small, that the item in question may actually be real.

I am sure there are people who see these type of cards and think to themselves if there's even a 1 in 100 chance that this card I can buy for 10, 20, 100 or whatever might actually be worth 10s of thousands of dollars, why not take a shot?

I know it's difficult to police, but I think the card collecting industry would be much better off without these listings on ebay. Unless they were in a separate reprint or reproduction section. It would be nice if they wouldn't show up when searching for real and original cards.

[Leon]

then ya' have ones like this....yikes

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1912-T202-Ha...item2ca2cbd38a

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[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Leon

then ya' have ones like this....yikes

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1912-T202-Ha...item2ca2cbd38a

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This one is much worse. I might even fall for something like this. A trusted seller with 13k positive feedback shouldn't be selling reprints as original cards.

[drcy]

That one isn't a reprint, but a part of a card.