Who's the real hobby villian -- Joe Orlando OR Dave Forman ?

[scottglevy]

Plz remove

[esehombre]

I agree...I had heard of this a few days ago and if it is true it is very disturbing. Do you have an article or a link to confirm the info?

[scottglevy]

My info comes from the following Daily News article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba..._disaster.html

[botn]

Did either of you boys read this thread?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=113822

[WarHoundR69]

A bit vague on this, but about a year or so ago, Dave Forman got sued because he refused to return a GAI9 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle card to the person who submitted it for crossover.

Not sure about the details but I know it happened. I'm sure the cyber experts out there can dig up all the details.

[WarHoundR69]

Just wondering - What exactly did Joe Orlando do that was so wrong?

[JamesGallo]

Originally Posted by WarHoundR69

A bit vague on this, but about a year or so ago, Dave Forman got sued because he refused to return a GAI9 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle card to the person who submitted it for crossover.

Not sure about the details but I know it happened. I'm sure the cyber experts out there can dig up all the details.

Try not to throw mud if you don't know the details.

I forget all the fine points of the suit, but part of the issue was the the card was owned by one of the higher ups at PSA or GAI I believe and they wanted it crossed. SGC said it would not cross. I forget why it get even messier but I do recall the SGC had every right to hold the card IMO as the owner was being a complete ass and wanted a bump SGC didn't feel the card deserved. If anything this would just go to show how honest SGC is.

This was in one of the NY papers probably post of newsday.

As far as what PSA has down wrong, well the complete and total messing up of labeling cards correctly, total lack of customer support and the fact that the card they based thier whole business on is a trimmed card would be starters.

I am sure in the long run we will get more details on Dave.

As for many of the other comments regarding SGC policies they were answered in the other thread.
No employee of SGC can have cards graded and this was something they started roughly a year or two ago. The comments are further detailed in the previous thread so go read through the 5 pages.

James G

[pwilk17]

I doubt that $400K is the full extent of Formans sports collection holdings. As he is obviously involved in the hobby, it is very likely that he holds millions of dollars worth of items.

[Peter_Spaeth]

As noted on the other thread, according to Mastro's complaint (which apparently did not detail all the items Dave consigned), one lot was a PSA graded card and three lots were SGC graded cards.

[ullmandds]

"I doubt that $400K is the full extent of Formans sports collection holdings. As he is obviously involved in the hobby, it is very likely that he holds millions of dollars worth of items."

YEAH...ESPECIALLY IF HIS COMPANY GRADED/OVERGRADED THEM!