N284 Buchner Gold Coin Set

[bcbgcbrcb]

I am doing some research and am trying to determine if all of the N284 Buchner Gold Coin cards were in fact issued in 1887? If anyone has studied this set and can provide details, it would be most appreciated.

[RCMcKenzie]

Phil, I'm working on this set and am over halfway finished. According to the Lipset guide all the cards have an 1887 copyright, although I have some that do not have a copyright date. I don't know if the backs are maybe just worn.

I have not gone through and checked all the teams to see if they match up with 1887 for a particular player, but for example, McCormick was only on Pitt in 1887 and is pictured as Pitt. I am not very familiar with all the jockey's and actors and all that, which are really also part of the set. Here are some examples, including one of the checklist additions that Jeff discovered, Mickey Welch. I consider it an n284, I wouldn't know what else to call it... Rob

[bcbgcbrcb]

Thanks for the info and pics, Rob, very helpful.

[tedzan]

Hi Phil

When I had a bunch of N284 cards, I did some homework on the players. There are quite a number of "rookies" featured in
this set whose careers started in the Spring of 1887. My guess is that these cards were issued either sometime in late 1887
or perhaps in early 1888. I will have to find my records to see what I have come up with regarding their date.


My two remaining N284 cards...…

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TED Z

T206 Reference
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[bcbgcbrcb]

Thanks for the insight, Ted. If you can check your notes for me, that would be great. My primary reason for asking is that with the Allen & Ginter and Goodwin sets being issued in 1888 and many of the N172’s not being issued for the first time until 1888 or later, the Buchner set being definitively dated as 1887 would make it the sole rookie card for some key players such as Cap Anson.

[rjackson44]

Pretty artwork

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Thanks for the insight, Ted. If you can check your notes for me, that would be great. My primary reason for asking is that with the Allen & Ginter and Goodwin sets being issued in 1888 and many of the N172’s not being issued for the first time until 1888 or later, the Buchner set being definitively dated as 1887 would make it the sole rookie card for some key players such as Cap Anson.

Phil
I checked out my research on the 39 cards I once had. I did not come up with any evidence to indicate that any of these N284 subjects (based
on their team identification) would have been printed & issued in 1888. Of course, this sample is only 28 % of this set's total number of cards.
However, normal probability suggests I would've found at least one guy (out of 39) whose team/timeline could have been 1888....which would
discount the N284 set of cards as a "rookie source".

Furthermore, what complicates this matter are the 3 different Lithograph printers that produced these cards. It may be tough to make the case
that the N284 Anson (or other famous HOFers of that era in this set) are their true rookie cards.

If these cards had bios printed on their backs (like T205's) they would provide us a certain timeline. Regarding a timeline, my guess is the N284
cards were printed & issued circa Fall 1887.

Anyhow, I haven't given up on this set, yet. I will continue studying the team/timeline factor for the remaining 100+ subjects in this set.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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