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Old 10-23-2023, 08:21 AM
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Impressive hammer on the m116 wags...an AUTHENTIC Jordan rookie outsells a mid grade #????? Will the A be coming soon to a PSA 10 near you?

Strong prices on goudey/delong gehrigs. T206 cobbs seem to be coming back to earth.

What do y'all think?
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Old 10-23-2023, 08:26 AM
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I thought 9K for a nice PSA 4 1933 Gehrig #160 was pretty weak actually. Heritage sold two of them in Nov 22 for $11,700 and $11,100.
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Old 10-23-2023, 10:13 AM
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I thought 9K for a nice PSA 4 1933 Gehrig #160 was pretty weak actually. Heritage sold two of them in Nov 22 for $11,700 and $11,100.
i thought the 34 gehrig was pretty strong...i didn't notice the 33.
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Old 10-23-2023, 11:17 AM
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I picked two tougher T205 variations and got distracted or could have had a couple others. Good prices for buying I thought. Have had to chase those the past year. Overall some stuff weaker than it’s been. The psa 3 52 Mays , I got topped but the same card went for $16k two years ago, sold for only $10.5k last night. Very well centered, nice looking card… thought it was a good deal but I didn’t want to pay more right now.
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Old 10-24-2023, 12:16 AM
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Overall some stuff weaker than it’s been. The psa 3 52 Mays , I got topped but the same card went for $16k two years ago, sold for only $10.5k last night. Very well centered, nice looking card… thought it was a good deal but I didn’t want to pay more right now.
I was watching the 52 Mays as well and thought the same thing.

I ended up winning two cards...56T Aaron and Spahn for my 56T HoFer subset.
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Old 10-24-2023, 06:22 AM
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Same way I felt about the 1933 Gehrig #160 and the N28 Kelly - nice cards, but I can be patient and expect them to go even lower.
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Old 10-23-2023, 11:58 AM
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I thought 9K for a nice PSA 4 1933 Gehrig #160 was pretty weak actually. Heritage sold two of them in Nov 22 for $11,700 and $11,100.

It's a 3-5k card before covid. What people just heard of Lou Gehrig?
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Old 10-23-2023, 08:27 AM
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Pete- I went for the collar last night. I was stunned at an E93 Wiltse (4.5) that
was around $150 maybe, when I went to bed. Looks like it sold for $625. Also,
a nice looking T206 Hulswitt PSA 1 Carolina Brights barely topped $1k.
Maybe we can hear from some winners?

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Old 10-23-2023, 08:41 AM
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I don't think there were very many bidders at all for many of the T206s offered. I put in some low bids on many of the lower graded off backs and lost all but 1 by only the next bid increment. I fell asleep too early and woke up around 1:10 tried to up my bids because there were several I thought were a good deal but the lots had closed.
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I don't think there were very many bidders at all for many of the T206s offered. I put in some low bids on many of the lower graded off backs and lost all but 1 by only the next bid increment. I fell asleep too early and woke up around 1:10 tried to up my bids because there were several I thought were a good deal but the lots had closed.
1 OJ and 3 T206's, lost all 4 by the next bid increment. That said, I was already at the high point on my max bids and wouldn't participate in further bids even if I was awake for it (East Coast guy that goes into work at 630am over here). All 4 were bid up/over during the extended period.

I was a little surprised I lost all of the T206's. They're as popular as ever, but the market is absolutely saturated with them. Buyers are still there, though.
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Old 10-23-2023, 09:21 AM
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It's not pre-war, but it's the only lot I seriously pursued. 1954 Bowman Willie Mays. I fell in love with the rough cut, as well as the fatter-than-usual borders and better-than-usual centering for this card, so I was bound to overpay for it.

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It's not pre-war, but it's the only lot I seriously pursued. 1954 Bowman Willie Mays. I fell in love with the rough cut, as well as the fatter-than-usual borders and better-than-usual centering for this card, so I was bound to overpay for it.


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It's not pre-war, but it's the only lot I seriously pursued. 1954 Bowman Willie Mays. I fell in love with the rough cut, as well as the fatter-than-usual borders and better-than-usual centering for this card, so I was bound to overpay for it.

Ian has one of the best eyes for quality in the hobby... this Mays is worth a modest premium, no doubt!!
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Old 10-23-2023, 09:23 AM
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I made a minor pick up, loved the graphics on this and the lineup card including DiMaggio and Gehrig was a cool bonus.

Congrats to all winners
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Impressive hammer on the m116 wags...an AUTHENTIC Jordan rookie outsells a mid grade #????? Will the A be coming soon to a PSA 10 near you?

Strong prices on goudey/delong gehrigs. T206 cobbs seem to be coming back to earth.

What do y'all think?
For the most part, I was unimpressed with the hammer prices. I get it is a monthly, but a lot of cards went much lower than I thought they would.
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I picked up this nice Chance Red portrait PSA 2…




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In my opinion T206's which are centered and carry a very high eye appeal, most noteably hall of famers still bring top money when they come up for sale.

Many of the examples which ended last night in the Encore auction were either off center or lower grade.

As a comparison I won a T206 Red Cobb portrait in PWCC last night which looked pretty sharp for its grade. It didn't go cheap
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It's the first time I've seen a Carolina Brights go for under $500 - it's probably in 2 pieces, but for the most part a cool card.
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I won this. I am working on the set, but I love the stamp on the back, which I had never seen. These W601 PCs are so rare that it’s tough to say whether I over or under paid. I was watching two other cards - the Blue M116 Wagner and the 1933 Delong Gehrig. I think prices on both were very strong/solid

Regarding t206s, especially rare backs: PWCC is dumping them into the market place with these auctions. I think the next one has like 5-6 brown Lenox in one auction; you rarely see more than 2 per year across all auctions. I think they way they are doing these auctions is just plain stupid, at least from a sell standpoint; good for buyers. And there was that random Massachusetts auction with all the Carolina Brights not long ago. I think the market has been flooded with rare back t206 and prices reflect that. Way too much supply.
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PWCC Stuff went soft last night...a Nice 53 Topps Mantle SGC 7 sold for $21,000 well off it's peak....it will be nice having a normalization of pricing relative to the state of the economy.
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I won this. I am working on the set, but I love the stamp on the back, which I had never seen. These W601 PCs are so rare that it’s tough to say whether I over or under paid. I was watching two other cards - the Blue M116 Wagner and the 1933 Delong Gehrig. I think prices on both were very strong/solid.
Since that was my consignment, you under paid!! Ha. I’ve never seen another stamp like that either and I wasn’t excited to see it pop up in their monthly auction along with my 1926-29 Plain back Exhibits of all HOFers.

The W601s and other Postcards series like the Souvenir shop and a team issue with Christy Mathewson went way cheaper than expected. On the flip side, my winnings were at a decent value.
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