T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set survey....MISSION COMPLETE

[tedzan]

In response to recent requests, I'm reprising the American Beauty 460 info I have gleaned from trying to complete this very tough
T206 sub-set.





There are 103 possible T206's that could've been printed with the American Beauty 460 back. However, there are always those tricky
NO-PRINTS that keep you guessing. After 4 years of searching for AB 460 cards, it appears to me that approximately 30 subjects are
NO-PRINTS. This of course is subject to revision, if additional AB 460's are found.

The AB 460 back has a Factory 42 (Durham, North Carolina) identification. These cards were issued near the end of the T206 produc-
tion run in early 1911. So, I thought it would be cool to collect this T206 sub-set.....and definitely challenging. Currently, I have 62 of
these cards, and still searching.


Listed here are the 67 confirmed AB 460 cards. The 350/460 Series subjects are listed first; and, the 460-only Series subjects follow.....


350/460 Series..................27 cards

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wagner (bat on right)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wilhelm (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series..................40 cards

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bergen (catching)
Bridwell (cap)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Camnitz (arms up)
Chance (bat)
Chase (Trophy)
Crandall (cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Howell (hands at waist)
Hummell
Lake (with ball)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Meyers
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait w/cap)


If anyone on Net54 has additional AB 460 cards that are not on this list of 67 cards, please chime in and show or tell us of your AB 460's.

Thanks very much,


TED Z

[David R]

Thanks for the great information Ted. The only one I have is the Duffy, which is already on your list.

David R.

[tedzan]

You may be interested in this....the same day (in another thread) when you asked about the AB 460 list,
a Net54 reader emailed me requesting the same.

Anyhow, are you tempted to try collecting the AB 460 cards ?

Best regards,

TED Z

[David R]

Hey Ted,

I don't think I have the patience. I am collecting the HOFers and trying to get as many different backs as I can. I have the Duffy AB 460. The only other one I came close on was a McGraw glove SGC 10 on eBay earlier this year that I think you outbid me on. I am currently looking for an AB 350 frame HOFer.

Good luck on this subset -- it's tough.

David R.

[tedzan]

David R

You are correct, I won that AB 460 card of McGraw. Of course, I did not know that I was bidding against you.

The "cryptic" bidders ID is one of ebay's features that ticks me off. I'd like to know who the other bidders are.


TED Z

[E93]

My only AB 460 is Bridwell w/cap noted above.
JimB

[tedzan]

A Net54 reader has emailed me with a Bell (pitching) with an AB 460 back.

This input increases the confirmed tally to 72 cards. I will be updating this survey later today.


Thanks,

TED Z

[ethicsprof]

Ted, ole buddy
i've exchanged some recent emails with Bill Brown re: super set and found out he just now has 100 different ABs.
have his data been coming your way?
just checking.
best,
barry

[tedzan]

I have checked with Bill. No new inputs to add to the 192 cards in the AB 350 (frame) series, nor the 72 cards in the AB 460 series.

Thanks for asking, ole buddy.

TED Z

[ethicsprof]

I had a feelin' that you had but wanted to make sure---after i heard Bill B.
say he had 100 now!!
great work, Ted.
all the best, ole friend

barry

[tedzan]

Hey ole buddy, you have to keep checking up on me. I depend on you to keep me honest

Here's some more AB 460's




T-Rex TED

[tedzan]

A Net54 reader has reported a CYoung (glove) with an AB 460 back.

Before I add it to the list it, I will check it out.


TED Z

[drdduet]

Ted,

Great stuff, you certainly have pulled out the monster's teeth.

[4815162342]

Michel Camilo

[tedzan]

Therefore, if my above analysis is correct, we should expect to eventually find the following 5 cards with AMERICAN
BEAUTY 460 backs.....if we do not first find them with Red HINDU backs.

My experience shows that the AB 460 back is very underrated. It is much scarcer than most T206 collectors realize.
Further reinforcement of this fact is, that no AMERICAN BEAUTY (Factory 42) cigarette packs have been found.



.................................................. ..................Factory 42





350/460 series cards........

Dougherty (arm in air)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chi)
Murphy (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Reulbach (no glove)


These 5 could possibly be No Prints. On the other hand, perhaps someone on Net54 (or a reader of Net54) may just
surprise us by reporting any one of these 5 with an AB 460 back ?

Thanks every one for your efforts in these type of surveys.


TED Z

[ethicsprof]

I checked my AB pack and it's fact.25 not 42---just throwin' a li'l late night
corroboration your way.
By the way, i do like ole Doc Duet's language of your 'pulling the monster's teeth'.

all the best,
barry