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Pawn Stars Fake Pete Rose Cards
Did anyone else see the guy trying to sell several fake Pete Rose cards on the TV show Pawn Stars last night?
They were obvious fakes and were explained to the seller to be such. The troubling part to me was after being told this his response wasn't to take his loss but rather "I'll sell them somewhere else." |
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Tim,
They actually didn't appear that obviously fake. 1967 had a lot of QC issues and such coloring was not uncommon. I'm not saying they're real, but holding the cards would have been the deciding factor for me. It appeared that neither party knew much about baseball cards. Regardless, even if they were real, we're looking at 100-125? |
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I saw it
The cards did not look all that centered and all that sharp, probably EX-MT. So I disagree with the owners' saying since the cards looked "perfect" they were obvious fakes. Without holidng them, it's hard to say, perhaps the owner though in person did notice obvious color issues and they were indeed fakes but as a tv viewer hard to make that call...How many fake '67 roses are out there? I know the '63 is readily faked, but that one too?
Last edited by mintacular; 02-09-2010 at 04:10 PM. |
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For the record I couldn't tell if they were good with the few quick shots on TV. According to Rick (the Pawn Shop owner) they were obvious fakes.
I agree neither party really seemed to know what they were talking about but if I had to place a bet I would think Rick was right. If you've watched enough of the episodes he seems to know the tell tale signs of fake vs original for a broad range of things. |
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My impression of the owner of the cards was that he wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
"If these are fake, then what's real? Is my wife real? Is the cat real?" Nice logic, Einstein. |
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I've been meaning to go into this pawn shop just to see if they do have anything pre-war(cards,of course,or other related items).
When I do,I will post about what I saw(or bought). Sincerely,Clayton |
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I was watching and absolutely busted a gut laughing when I heard this.
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That's Entertainment
Seems to me that too many of the sellers of quality items walk away with little objection to the shop owners' lowball evaluation of their stuff. I wonder if the show's producers might be buying the stuff above what the shop offers just to get the "talent" into camera range.
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I am from Maine have a little experience with Real life Antique "Pickers". They are generally looked at as the scum of the Earth who show up 2 hours early to Yard Sales and rummage through peoples stuff often without permission or tact. The two guys on the show are better than any I have met but they still come across as just incredibly annoying as they impose themselves on other people and then act all put out if they cant buy your stuff for 1/10 its value. The tall skinny guy is much nicer than the short fat one, but pickers in general are just a small step up from Carneys. What I dont get is why they dont buy more. They must spend a FORTUNE on gas in that huge van while driving around for days before they buy something. I bet their big scores barely pay for their gas bill.
As for Pawn Stars, I like the show. I get the impression that Rick is a pretty fair guy who often pays well for the stuff he wants. In many ways that show is a breath of fresh air because they allow the sellers to stand right there and hear the expert appraisals before the negotiations begin. Best quote ever was when he said something like "A Pawn Shop owner who trusts his customers is out of business REAL quick". Rhys Yeakley |
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Rhys,
I've had similar thoughts about Pickers: How do these guys make a living? Many times the synopsis of a trip will show an item that they bought for $40 was sold for $100, a $20 item for $50, etc. Given that they're not dealing in very big volume (at least on the show), I wonder how they can make a living. Even taking into account that in real life they're buying more stuff, it doesn't seem like they're turning over enough inventory at high enough margins. |
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Honestly, some of the stuff I've seen them buy. I'd have a hard time believing they were able to turn it over at all. |
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There is also a forum for Pawn Stars over there and while that show is more interesting than American Pickers much of it is staged also. The old Coke Machine they bought and had restored magically turned into a completely different model of machine...The guy who traded the gun for the guitar actually works in the guitar shop where the guitar he traded for came from..they had it on their website for over a year. That pinball machine they bought a few weeks ago for $1,000 that cost them $3,000 to restore and the guy told them they could get $5,000 for it...what world are they living in??? You can get a total restore of a vintage pinball for way less than 3 Grand, and that particular game isn't worth more than $700 completely restored. I know they can't know everything, but those baseball cards looked real to me...I DVR'ed the show and watched it on a 52 inch HDTV and they looked authentic to me when I paused it and took a good look. All that said the show is still interesting and I love watching it. I still watch American Pickers too, but it's more like watching a train wreck and I can't avert my eyes.
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I like Pawn Stars, too, but wish they would show the sales end instead of always buying, as someone mentioned.
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I don't know. For a pawn shop, it seems to me they are overpaying for a lot of the stuff that comes in. You need to turn stuff over quickly in order to make any money and cover your overhead, and most of the time that means you're not going to realize anywhere near a retail price for it. I do think some of the stuff that walks in there is strictly for exposure or as a publicity stunt. Did anybody think Rick was ever going to pony up over 3/4 of a million dollars for the Arthur C. Clarke sunken treasure find that failed to meet it's reserve in a previous auction? |
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back to the Rose
I had to watch the replaying with the Rose Cards episode to see if I see what Rick saw. Only thing that jumped out as BIG flag, was that everone of the cards had the same exact centering on all the cards.
I do watch this show but you do have to take into account that what you see on is a TV show. It has been stagged and edited. But its still a fun watch. |
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