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Old 12-11-2011, 08:50 AM
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Default Deacon Phillippe and Sam Leever

This is sort of off-topic but feel free to post scans of either player. I'm a big Pirates fan with a writing job covering the team that I love(the job and the team) and I have a lot of free time to do time-wasting stuff like these articles. I broke down the career's of both Leever and Phillippe, showing how similar these two just really were. As mentioned in the story, baseball-reference says the most similar player ever to Phillippe is Leever and vice versa. That's not just pitching, that is as hitters too and both of them finished with the same fielding percentage as well. Amazing how that worked out for two long time teammates.

I mentioned in the story I thought both were worthy of Hall of Fame inductions but to be honest, neither is high on that list so if it were up to me they would be have a wait before I put them in. I actually like the one a year process, especially for the older players who have passed because the players don't get lost in a big group, like some of the Negro Leaguers did a few years back, when you put them in one at a time.

Anyway, here is the career breakdowns for both of them. I figured people here would enjoy seeing just how they did compared to the rest of the pitchers on their staff, against .500 teams and when matching up against Hall of Fame pitchers throughout their careers

Phillippe http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011...e-numbers.html
Leever http://www.piratesprospects.com/2011...e-numbers.html
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:09 AM
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Default time-wasting stuff...

Hey John
Time-wasting stuff? Yeah, for me I waste so much time I fall asleep at the keyboard sometimes. I often feel like I am at a local postcard show where the average age is that of a centurion. Here is a Blanke-Wenneker Leever for you....

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Old 12-11-2011, 09:23 AM
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Nice card Leon. By time-wasting I meant the story took up four hours of my time and besides writing another story for that site, it was the only thing I did yesterday that can be considered productive.

I write a history article for every sunday but they usually take two hours tops from start to finish including editing, adding pics, etc but I knew I had nothing else planned so I finally got around to the Phillippe story I've been meaning to do.

I personally just wanted to see if what they said was true about him, how he always wanted the ball against the better pitchers, saying sometimes he would go on short rest just to get a certain pitcher. Seven starts against Mathewson, who faced the Pirates 45 times between 1901-07, doesn't exactly sound like Deacon went after the very best
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Old 12-11-2011, 10:38 AM
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Fantastic work. This read was not a waste of time for me, I love the history behind the players and the game I love. Keep up the great work.
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Old 12-11-2011, 03:58 PM
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Appropriately, they are evenly represented in my pile of cards.
I have one card of each player and from the same set.

heck, the cards even look like the same guy, same background color....same submission.....freaky mean!
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