T206/T215 Help Please

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Ahh... but I now praise you, Peter!!! High praise!!

A beautiful sight!!

Thousands of these cards were flour-pasted into scrapbooks 100 years ago, only to be soaked off 20, 30, 50 or 75 years ago, or so. I'd think that some cards have been soaked once every generation or so.


Save the soaked off bits, so we can see the card and the extras.


Thanks.


Frank.

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Posted By: Scott Dango

so then soaking and using an exacto on the back of a card is considered acceptable.....oh good , i thought that was consider a card alteration, thus nullifying a grade .....

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Correct, Scott.

The card is altered already, with the crap on the back. I think the knife should stay in its box. But letting foreign debris float away from the surface of a card is fine. The card will still be the card, that crap isn't part of the card. It's a baseball card, it isn't a relic from the Ark of the Covenant.

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Posted By: peter ullman

no knives were used...as Frank has stated. I merely let schulte go for a swim...and upon helping him out of the "pool"...the extra paper remnants merely sloughed right off...pics to come soon...not terribly exciting!

pete in MN

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Posted By: peter ullman

Frank...it looks like just you and me now on this thread...no one else cares!!!

Here's the outcome...as I expected...all the schmutz came off revealing a lovely back damaged T215.
before

after

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Posted By: leon

No, it's not only you and Frank still in this thread. I think a lot of us are interested. It is exactly as I thought it would be....thanks for the update!!

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Posted By: Sean BH

Peter,
With the coupon bits that came off did you see any idea if it was an attempted reback or simply was two cards stuck together?

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Posted By: S Gross

........... that's exactly what I expected, well done !! !!

Scott (member SIFA, soaking is fun association)

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Posted By: peter ullman

I saved the "bits" which I have at home. I haven't scrutinized them yet...but I will tonight and report back!

peter ullman

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Posted By: Scott Mt. Joy

Thanks for the update Peter

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Posted By: David Smith

So, does this mean people are now going to be soaking their T213 Type 1 Coupon cards in hopes of having a Red Cross back under them?

David

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Posted By: peter ullman

David...that's funny...but that'd be crazy...and stupid...and impossible!!! The remnants on my card...and the others are from coupon type II or III...not I.

pete

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Posted By: David Smith

Peter,

You are correct about the remnants being from Type II and III's. My mistake.

David

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Now that is a bit of improvement!! Good job, Peter!! Well done.


My one Red Cross card has a rough back like this one. And I've seen several other Red Cross cards with back damage. This has me thinking that for some reason or other, a disproportionate number of Red Cross T215 cards have back damage. Anyone else have one with a rough back?? Anyone else think that T215s are found more often with back damage than other contemporary issues??


Again, a Big Thank You, Peter.

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Posted By: Matthew

Frank, my Red Cross type card has a small (about 1/2" diameter) spot of paper loss near the top center of the card from scrapbook removal.