Legendary Auctions May Auction

[dstudeba]

This could possibly be my last post for a very long time, but I have never found Jim to be intellectually stupid.

As for the original post, I found some very nice cards in this offering.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Jim, now who would have thought that such an educated guy could be so intellectually stupid? But then again, I actually work for what I have in my life so excuse me for being so cynical at times as nothing has ever been handed to me.

Guys, this is so beneath you both.

[Wesley]

Agreed.

Can we save the personal insults for auction houses, dealers and grading companies?

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Wesley

Agreed.

Can we save the personal insults for auction houses, dealers and grading companies?

[birdman42]

What are the chances that this eBay lot with a BIN
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

is a different item from this catalog listing?
http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDeta...100&category=1

Things that make you go, "Hmm."

Bill

[E93]

Originally Posted by birdman42

What are the chances that this eBay lot with a BIN
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

is a different item from this catalog listing?
http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDeta...100&category=1

Things that make you go, "Hmm."

Bill

They are different items. There are clear markings that indicate they are different. For example, the mark on the ebay item above the second dot before "schedule" in the line "...Schedule..."

JimB

[terjung]

Originally Posted by birdman42

What are the chances that this eBay lot with a BIN
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

is a different item from this catalog listing?
http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDeta...100&category=1

Things that make you go, "Hmm."

Bill

What am I missing? They look different to me.

[autograf]

Probably from same source.........

Does Dave Forman consigning to Legendary Auctions mean that the lawsuit with Mastro et al is off? Or is the clear deliniation between the two companies sufficent insulation for him to feel comfortable with consigning?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Speaking of clear delineations, Doug Allen is still listed as the President of Ketap Company (successor in interest to Mastro Auctions) on the Illinois Secretary of State website.

http://www.ilsos.gov/corporatellc/Co...eLlcController

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by autograf

Probably from same source.........

Does Dave Forman consigning to Legendary Auctions mean that the lawsuit with Mastro et al is off? Or is the clear deliniation between the two companies sufficent insulation for him to feel comfortable with consigning?

Forman consigned with REA...I'm not aware that he's consigned with Legendary.

[bmarlowe1]

Thanks to my friend Bob R. for pointing out this photo (lot 705) labeled as Billy Nash is really Dick Johnston. I downloaded the same physical photo from a collector's web-site (zmotive) some time ago. I noticed there that it was incorrectly ID'd as Nash.

[wonkaticket]

Nice catch Mark & Bob.

[Bicem]

Nice catch Mark, SGC should hire you for player identification!

[3-2-count]

I thought Nash looked different in that one, but just thought it may have been a younger pic of him. Great work Mark, as always....

[bmarlowe1]

Jeff - I've been told by a respected board member that telling collectors/consignors that their identifications are wrong often results in yelling and screaming . I don't doubt it. It seems to have a special place - even beyond disagreements over card grading.

That same image, correctly identified as Johnston, appeared in "A History of the Boston Base Ball Club", by George Tuohey, published by M. F. Quinn, 1897.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

Jeff - I've been told by a respected board member that telling collectors/consignors that their identifications are wrong often results in yelling and screaming . I don't doubt it. It seems to have a special place - even beyond disagreements over card grading.

This is true...I once told a poster that his photo was not Lou Gehrig and he took it to a very personal level.

[Bicem]

guess people prefer delusion?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bicem

guess people prefer delusion?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hGvQtumNAY

[tbob]

legendary is now open for bidding.

[barrysloate]

With regard to photo identification, collectors generally have a fair amount of money sunk into their photographs, so if they are told that these images are misidentified, it's going to hurt them in the pocketbook. Thus, many will not react favorably.

Also, in some situations there is simply a disagreement between two different parties. One insists it is, the other insists it isn't, and neither accepts the other's viewpoint. In these situations it is possible to never have a consensus.

[bmarlowe1]

There may be a scientific study on this, I don’t know. My experience indicates that it is true that the facial recognition part of the brain is significantly affected by external influences such as:

1) an identification provided by a supposed authority
2) a personal stake of some kind in the identification

I have seen examples of this that are completely ludicrous. In one case a major league team provided a photo of a person who was claimed to be a very well-known prior owner of the team for a magazine cover. Though was no resemblance whatsover to the real person (fat, full head of straight hair vs. thin with very curly hair and a receding hair-line), people could not decide whether or not this was the right person. It took a demonstration of ear-mismatch to get the cover changed.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

With regard to photo identification, collectors generally have a fair amount of money sunk into their photographs, so if they are told that these images are misidentified, it's going to hurt them in the pocketbook. Thus, many will not react favorably.

Isn't this willful blindness apparent whenever anyone's cards or favorite auction house for consignments is criticized?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Isn't this willful blindness apparent whenever anyone's cards or favorite auction house for consignments are criticized?

Or grading service.

[calvindog]

Peter, you're just still angry that your white whale, the 1967 Mantle in PSA 7, has continued to elude you.

[Bicem]

I don't know about all that guys, but I did pick up this sweet King Kelly photo the other day.

[barrysloate]

That is King Kelly...King Kelly of Lithuania.

[Bicem]

take it back! you're just jealous!!!

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by Bicem

I don't know about all that guys, but I did pick up this sweet King Kelly photo the other day.

Put a crowd of 75-100 kids around him, and that's the spitting image of a young Joe DiMaggio.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Peter, you're just still angry that your white whale, the 1967 Mantle in PSA 7, has continued to elude you.

No worries, I will find someone who can make a 6 into an 8.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

No worries, I will find someone who can make a 6 into an 8.

You'll probably need a plastic surgeon or a urologist for that.

[calvindog]

I'm pretty certain Peter is more in the mid-range grade in that department. Perhaps a VG++++. Like the description on the label it sounds awesome.

[bmarlowe1]

Hey Jeff - it's Fred Dunlap. Nice pick-up.

edited to add:
[BTW - in resonse to a few communications - I have to make it clear that this was a joke - the point was to show how easy it was to find a ballplayer that "resembles" almost any given photo.]

[Bicem]

Thanks Mark!!!!!!

[Old Hoss]

I'm new to collecting, and am just wondering if you all consider it safe to bid with Legendary.

Thanks!

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Old Hoss

I'm new to collecting, and am just wondering if you all consider it safe to bid with Legendary.

Hi - welcome to pre-war! What do you mean by "safe?" You will get what you win if you win something if that's your concern.

[barrysloate]

Yes, I do.

[Old Hoss]

Thanks for the welcome and the quick replies! By "safe," I mean: are their descriptions/assessments correct? In terms of identifying the items correctly, and condition.

Some of the descriptions seem to lack the proper amount of detail (especially re: condition) that I might like for an internet auction.

[barrysloate]

If you have an issue with a description you can call them and ask for more details. I've done it many times and they have been very cooperative.

[Old Hoss]

Thanks for letting me know, Barry. I will be sure to call them.

[perezfan]

My experiences have all been positive since the split with Mastro as well. I understand the various criticisms, but also think that many on this Board have put them under a microscope, with far more scrutiny than any other auction house (except for maybe Coach's Corner).

But from my personal experience, everything has been exactly as described and shipped securely/promptly. Hope this helps...

[tbob]

No problems with Legendary other than their sending me a G/VG 1955 Bowman set instead of an EX/EXMT 1955 Bowman set (which I won) in the same auction. When I called them they apologized and took care of getting the right set to me.