So much for REA disclosure on T206s...

[CamaroCPA]

I may be a naive noob, but it seems to me it should be difficult to sell a card that he claimed as trimmed in order to keep bids down and win. Can anyone explain how to get around this?

That being said, I would be curious to know if he did place a bid after bashing it!

Back to my regularly scheduled lurking.

[wonkaticket]

Rich this was on the Henry Reccius Cigar, Wagner card I think.

This may not be the exact thread....

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=79186

Cheers,

John

[Peter_Spaeth]

He admitted it here.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...hlight=tribute

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by E93

Scott,
I think there is a difference. A card still has value, even if it is trimmed. An autograph does not if it is fake.
JimB

Jim, well-put - I like the cut of your jib.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He admitted it here.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...hlight=tribute

Hal and the truth were never very closely associated.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Peter: Hal, I can't believe you would trash a card you were trying to buy in an effort to keep the price down, when all along you have said it wasn't about money.

Hal: Peter, you work for corporate clients.

LOL.

[slidekellyslide]

Whatever happened to Hal? Did he sell off his collection?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Whatever happened to Hal? Did he sell off his collection?

Yes, while he was bidding on it at the same time.

[ullmandds]

i believe a divorce caused the demise of Hal's collection.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Yes, while he was bidding on it at the same time.

that's pretty funny!

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Yes, while he was bidding on it at the same time.

Well, at least he kept the price down.

[thehoodedcoder]

His initial post was on 4-20, long after the preview was open. Was he not allowed to put in a bid before the lot description was updated to say it might be trimmed?

If he was pondering a purchase, is not allowed to enter his horse into the race in case he decides or comes to the conclusion it is in fact not trimmed?

Maybe I am still missing something, but I don't think he actually said the card was trimmed or that people shouldn't bid on it. The only thing he really said was that he was confused at why people would bid up to the same price as card without a possible trim disclosure.

Even if he did, everyone here says it doesn't work anyway, so I guess, my only comment would be, "Who cares if he bid or not?" Do you think that "He" kept the price down, or the fact that it was disclosed as a possible trim, kept the price down?

If you don't like or respect him, why even worry yourself with what he is doing?

Kevin

[Peter_Spaeth]

No, the other Kevin said it WAS trimmed. Read his first post.

The Joss PSA 8 is already over $5K with the juice. The card was announced with possible trim, which simply means it does have a trim.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

my only comment would be, "Who cares if he bid or not?" . . . .If you don't like or respect him, why even worry yourself with what he is doing?

+1

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

No, the other Kevin said it WAS trimmed. Read his first post.

The Joss PSA 8 is already over $5K with the juice. The card was announced with possible trim, which simply means it does have a trim.

I did read it.

That is a facetious comment, that you are taking at literal truth.

Kevin

[Peter_Spaeth]

And this one?

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I love PSA more than anyone, but this card has to be trimmed...

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And this one?

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I love PSA more than anyone, but this card has to be trimmed...

He doesn't say that he should not bid on it, nor that anyone else should not bid on it.

The only thing he actually says is that, in a nut shell, the card shouldn't go for the same price as an 8.

Your argument and actually a lot of peoples are argument, is essentially saying, "No one should bid on it, because it is trimmed." That simply did not occur, anywhere. Anywhere you think that has happened is really you inferring something.

Kevin

[Peter_Spaeth]

I have no argument at all. You claimed he never said it was trimmed, and I merely pointed out that he did say it.

To quote you:

"Maybe I am still missing something, but I don't think he actually said the card was trimmed..."

[thehoodedcoder]

Again, saying it "has to be" trimmed, is not saying it "is" trimmed.

The two wordings mean different things based on the context of the sentence.

Kevin

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Even if it doesn't, how can it get a grade of 8 with that centering???

Collector: Uh, Mr. Orlando , how did the Joss card get an 8.
Mr Orlando: Uh,,, well the (huge) customer is always right.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

Again, saying it "has to be" trimmed, is not saying it "is" trimmed.

The two wordings mean different things based on the context of the sentence.

Kevin

Sure, Mr. Clinton, whatever you say. Good lord man just admit you made a mistake and move on.

[Gradedcardman]

Kevin Q,

I agree. I don't care because I have no respect for him.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sure, Mr. Clinton, whatever you say. Good lord man just admit you made a mistake and move on.

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." –Bill Clinton, during his 1998 grand jury testimony on the Monica Lewinsky affair

[ullmandds]

wonder-kevin powers...ACTIVATE!

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sure, Mr. Clinton, whatever you say. Good lord man just admit you made a mistake and move on.

When all else fails turn to pedantry.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

When all else fails turn to pedantry.

That may be the first time I've seen that word ever used on the internet.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Runscott

That may be the first time I've seen that word ever used on the internet.

Scott, stop being oleaginous.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Scott, stop being oleaginous.

pedantry: infantry composed entirely of pedophiles

oleaginous: having the feel and consistency of oleo

[Sean1125]

[HRBAKER]

Miss a day, miss a lot

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Runscott

pedantry: infantry composed entirely of pedophiles

oleaginous: having the feel and consistency of oleo, but also
distastefully complimentary

I know I'm being pedantic for posting again, but I consider it a more than necessary formality

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I am glad I decided to read this thread.

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

If you’re ok with contacting someone from REA and telling them to reach out to Leon confirming I was wrong and that you didn’t bid on the card. I will issue you a humble public apology and donate a $500 to a charity of your choice.

Cheers,

John

I am still waiting to hear how this turns out...but I'm not holding my breath.