Does anyone know Charles Litt?

[Oneofthree67]

Hello All - has anyone had any experience dealing with this person?

I was offered a nice card, but I wanted to purchase the card using PP Goods & Services and adding in extra $ to cover the fees. In the end the seller would get the full asking $ and I would have protection if USPS lost or damaged the item. The seller refused the PP Goods and Services and requested PP F&F. I did some parallel homework and found out the card was under auction on ebay (exact SGC Cert #).

So buyer beware!

Thanks!

Gary Dudek

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Oneofthree67

Hello All - has anyone had any experience dealing with this person?

I was offered a nice card, but I wanted to purchase the card using PP Goods & Services and adding in extra $ to cover the fees. In the end the seller would get the full asking $ and I would have protection if USPS lost or damaged the item. The seller refused the PP Goods and Services and requested PP F&F. I did some parallel homework and found out the card was under auction on ebay (exact SGC Cert #).

So buyer beware!

Does it have bids on eBay or is it a BIN. Many people list cards on several locations at the same time.

I have no idea about the person you are asking about. Could you post a link or at least say what card it is?

[Jim65]

Honest sellers should never demand that buyers give up all their buyer protection. If a seller refuses G&S Payment with the added money, thats an immediate no go for me.

[NiceDocter]

P.M. to Leon….. that name sounds familiar like an old time collector. He may not want G and S for the new tax requirements and IRS reporting for sales. Not sure …. hope it works out…. Rocky

[Oneofthree67]

The card offered on ebay with the exact SGC Cert is a 1968 Topps #240 Al Kaline SGC 8.

It’s a live auction with bids against the item. I have the emails saved to prove this situation occurred. Just sad news.

I share it here to make people aware. I’m sorry if Charles Litt ID was being compromised or was not involved or his name was being used inappropriately.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by NiceDocter

P.M. to Leon….. that name sounds familiar like an old time collector. He may not want G and S for the new tax requirements and IRS reporting for sales. Not sure …. hope it works out…. Rocky

Aside from all the other posts, that is another dead giveaway that this is a scam. If someone has a card posted for sale on Ebay, and it sells through that venue, it is going to be reported as a Paypal G&S transaction. He has no choice. So why would he decline a Paypal G&S payment from you?

Correct answer is a legit seller wouldn't.

[Rich Falvo]

You don’t have a choice when selling through eBay. You do have a choice when selling directly. I wouldn’t automatically assume a seller is dishonest when they don’t want payment through G&S.

I just bought something from a member that I saw they had listed on eBay. We did a private deal and I paid by F&F. I suspect that’s very common.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Honest sellers should never demand that buyers give up all their buyer protection. If a seller refuses G&S Payment with the added money, thats an immediate no go for me.

+1

[NiceDocter]

Just found this… https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=2267913

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by NiceDocter

Just found this… https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=2267913

Nice find so yes someone to avoid.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Honest sellers should never demand that buyers give up all their buyer protection. If a seller refuses G&S Payment with the added money, thats an immediate no go for me.

Originally Posted by Eric72

+1

Thats too bad you are both missing out on buying from a lot of honest sellers in the BST section.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Thats too bad you are both missing out on buying from a lot of honest sellers in the BST section.

Quite possibly. However, in this particular case, we're talking about a situation in which the, "...seller refuses G&S Payment..."

They're selling goods and they refuse a goods & services payment. Something about that doesn't strike me as honest. My first thought is that they're trying to rip off me, PayPal, or the IRS.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Thats too bad you are both missing out on buying from a lot of honest sellers in the BST section.

Sellers ask for F&F payment but I've never had anyone refuse to accept G&S if I add the extra money.

[LEHR]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Honest sellers should never demand that buyers give up all their buyer protection. If a seller refuses G&S Payment with the added money, thats an immediate no go for me.

I'm an honest seller and I've refused G&S payments from a few people simply because they seemed like a pain in the ass from the start. I don't want to deal with refunds or trying to get my items back if they decided to have buyers remorse.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by LEHR

I'm an honest seller and I've refused G&S payments from a few people simply because they seemed like a pain in the ass from the start. I don't want to deal with refunds or trying to get my items back if they decided to have buyers remorse.

So, if that buyer paid by F&F and he had a legitimate problem like a lost package, he would be shit out of luck?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Jim65

So, if that buyer paid by F&F and he had a legitimate problem like a lost package, he would be shit out of luck?

He would be out of luck in that PayPal wouldn’t step in and side with him. I pay with F&F all the time to people I know or know by reputation and am comfortable with it. If there was a legitimate problem, I think we would resolve it reasonably. I wouldn’t use F&F for somebody without a public hobby rep and was a stranger, but I don’t get an objection to using it in all card buying cases.

[LEHR]

Originally Posted by Jim65

So, if that buyer paid by F&F and he had a legitimate problem like a lost package, he would be shit out of luck?

Not at all. If there were a legitimate problem with delivery I'd happily refund the buyers money. Not everyone is out to screw everyone else. But I've also dealt with enough headache buyers in my day that if I don't feel 100% comfortable with a person/transaction then we will do it my way or not at all.

[Gradedcardman]

Total scammer