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Past, Present, Future 5 Tool Players...
I was wondering who you thought are the best "5-Tool" players in baseball history? I think it's a remarkable thing when a player can combine all 5 talents (batting avg, batting power, base-running speed, throwing, and defense). In my mind, Barry Bonds and Griffey Jr. were the best "Present" (ok I realize they retired a couple years ago...) and Andrew McCutcheon a future 5-Tool Guy. "Past" I'm not so sure about but would be interested in particular of pre-war guys, I guess Mantle and Mays would be the obvious chocies off the top of my head.. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Also, do you think "5-tool" no longer applies or is still relevant? Ir seems like traditional stats are now challenged by sabermetrics (OPS, etc.) and therefore the 5 Tool Paradigm might be too simplistic of a way to evaluate a player's worth...
Last edited by mintacular; 07-17-2011 at 08:05 PM. |
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Dave Parker in his prime was a five tool player. Weight and other things changed and diminished his numbers.
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Han Ram for the most part (not batting avg this year). Could Pujols be considered a 5 tool player even though he's at 1st? He steals 10-15 bags a year at 1st.
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Han Ram maybe, Pujols not. You usually plant your most unathletic player at 1st
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No argument that Bonds was a tool...
There are a lot of 40s and 50s guys whose stats don't bear out their speed because of the game. Cobb was a great power hitter in context of his day. I really think you could make a good case for Ruth...the pitching just makes it hard not to argue that he was as good all-round as you could ask for. |
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Ty Cobb did lead the league in SBs and HRs one year, albeit only 9 HRs. He did play in the dead ball era so HRs weren't very plentiful.
Willie Mays was a great 5 -tool player. He led the league in SBs and HRs 4x for each stat, but never in the same year. We know he could field and throw. Today I'd look at Matt Kemp. He's got the potential to be a solid 5-tool player if he can cut down on his K's and keep BA above .300
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Not to appear foolish, but who is Han Ran?
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Hanley Ramirez
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