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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: Scott
Shouldn't this card get a qualifier? |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: Glen V
Or this? |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: rick
Excuse my stupidity, but what does qualifier mean in this case? |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: Hal Lewis
(MC) = Miscut |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: T206Collector
...are confusing at best and a waste of time at worst. They are like saying, "This card would be mint, except for that horrible paper loss on the back" in a listing. A card with horrible paper loss is in poor condition. |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: jay behrens
We should all be so lucky as to an 80 for our cards that look as horrible as that t201 Matty. Aside form the obvious stains, entire back is completely o/c with part of the frame missing. I'd hate to think what grade it would have gotten if the back was centered. I guess the real graders were on break and the PSA monkeys broke in and graded a few cards. |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: fkw
Love that "Banana cut" on the T201. Never seen that before, must have been moving the sheet as it was cutting?? The condition is nice but that weard cut should have dropped the grade even more. Frank |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: Judge Dred
That T201 Matty example is terrible. You have to wonder what the grader was actually doing at the time the card was being viewed. Perhaps it was time for a banana break. |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: Mike Williams
Other side of the pond...and not NM (IMO): |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: leon
Don't you wish you and I could get grades like that? Those 2 bottom corners are not nmt.....regards |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: jay behrens
The upper left corner is brutal too. Frank, That banana cut is normal for t201s. Finding ones with a nice, straight cut is tough. The best that I can figure from the hundreds of t201s I've handled is that the sheet was first cut horizontally. Then the strip was folded and cut. My set only had 41 of the 50 cards with straight cuts, the rest had the banana cut. |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: Josh K.
It seems as though the graders are actually grading it compared to other cards of the same time period rather than a standard for all cards. In other words, the Wagner looks like a 7 compared to your typical E95 - a card from the 50's in that condition certainly would not get a 7. |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: jay behrens
that companies claim they do not do this. And it would make no sense to do so. Now, if they were grading based on what card looked like new, this would make sense as there are some sets that even new, would never pass the standard for NM/Mint beucase of rough cuts, miscuts, porr paper or printing, etc. That Wagner is EX+ at best, maybe Ex/NM with the one sharp corner. |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: warshawlaw
A medium o/c front card with otherwise nm-mt characteristics typically draws a near mint from them. Back centering isn't nearly as harshly hit. |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: Lee Behrens
Remember guys PSA 9 allows for a 90/10 back. Which I feel is absolutely ridiculous. |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: leon
I agree with you that it would be nice to have notes on why the guys at SGC grade a card a certain way...but notes would take "some" time and time is money.....I remember you saying to me that you wouldn't really want to pay $3 extra for a really nice, extremely top quality, archival holder. Would you want to pay an extra $5 to get a card graded? regards (btw, this is not the pick on the Behrens brothers morning, I just thought I would comment on this)......hope to see ya at the National this year....regards |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: JimB
Am I missing something? THe Reulbach looks nm to me. The tilt cut takes away from eye appeal, but otherwise it seems like a strong card. |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: jay behrens
Leon, I'm not familiar with the grading process, but I imagine that there is some note taking with each card. It wouldn't be that difficult to include those notes when they returnt he cards. It's not like they need to keep them on file or anything. And it would solve a waste issue for them |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: Scott
Leon - I agree completely...if you can't sell the 'advertised' product or service at a price that customers are willing to pay, and make a profit, then you have to go into fried chicken. |
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SGC - what is NM?
Posted By: JimB
Scott, |
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