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General M116 Sporting Life Question
I've looked through old post and couldn't find the answer so I started this thread.
The M116 set was comprised of 24 sheets of 12 cards. According to my math, that comes to a total of 288 cards. Yet there are only 287 cards in the set, not counting variants. What happened to the missing card? Any information would be appreciated. |
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Here's a good article on the populations question for this issue. I have a few star cards from this set and used to have a large group of commons from one lot.
http://www.prewarcards.com/2016/10/0...ting-life-set/
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The two cards of Jimmy Walsh(gray background and white background) were issued in different series(#20 & 22), thus they are considered different cards in the realm of the set and not variations..OR at least they account for the 24 series of 12 total of 288 cards.
There are of course two series of background color changes Blue vs. Pastel, which the images are also cropped slightly different. And there are several team changes, a few only recently discovered. Lastly many, maybe all of the first eighteen series were reissued in 1912 either as part of different numbered series or team series and had the Series of 300 Subjects backs, but were not in the tougher series 19-24 when originally issued in 1910 & 1911. How's that for muddying the water a bit more. Last edited by sb1; 01-26-2020 at 06:54 PM. |
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Appreciate this thread - I found I have a couple variations I never realized as i hadn't checked the backs.
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M116 Sporting Life Colors
Trying to understand the M116 Sporting Life Set a little better here.
Does anyone have a master list for every player / front color variation? I used TCDB as a starting point, but trying to determine what players all have blue/green background vs pastel vs the white/gray front. Some of the grading companies labeling confuses me as a "Blue Back" to me but the card seems like a pastel in some cases. Do you know why that is the case? Here is what I came up for hall of famers with based on TCDB: Solid Blue Background: Frank Chance Chief Bender Blue/Green Background: Roger Bresnahan Mordecai Brown Ty Cobb Eddie Collins Sam Crawford Hughie Jennings Nap Lajoie Christy Mathewson Honus Wagner Pastel Background: Frank Baker Roger Bresnahan Chief Bender Buster Brown Frank Chance Fred Clarke Eddie Collins Sam Crawford Miller Huggins Hughie Jennings Nap Lajoie Christy Mathewson Eddie Plank Joe Tinker Honus Wagner Vic Willis Cy Young Gray/White Background: Chief Bender Frank Baker Mordecai Brown Frank Chance Hugh Duffy Johnny Evers Elmer Flick Clark Griffith Harry Hooper Walter Johnson Addie Joss Connie Mack John McGraw Tris Speaker Rube Waddell Bobby Wallace Ed Walsh Not my card, but the Cy Young is a good representation on what confuses me for the front color labeling. This to me looks pastel, but is labeled "Blue" Would also love to see anyone show off their M116's. Looks like it's been a while since that's been done...! Matt Galvin
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Here's a link to the Old Cardboard checklist (an invaluable site IMO):
https://www.oldcardboard.com/m/m116/m116SearchIndex.asp "Blue back" is a reference to the advertising on the back, as the cards can be found with either blue or black print.
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Thanks guys!
I hadn’t considered the backs, that makes sense!
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This is my Jennings pair.
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And there is always the mystery hand cut blank back cards...here is my example.
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I like them just a little bit.
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Amazing, Jorge! Are the blue ones scarcer than the pastel ones, or do you just prefer the pastel background?
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I thought I had the master set but in the last 10-15 years a few anomalies have popped up which appear to be 1/1 s. I don’t know if a ‘true’ master set will ever exist.
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I think this set and the E121 American Caramel Series of 80 are the two more common Prewar sets that are still the most likely to offer new discoveries. Brian Last edited by brianp-beme; Today at 10:07 AM. |
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And here are Nap Rucker cards with image size and coloration (background, face and uniform) variations.
Brian |
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And below is the link to the thread that discusses the cropping variations, like seen in the Rucker cards in the post above, between the black and blue background versions in some of the M116 cards.
https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=243848 Brian |
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