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Posted By: jay behrens

did t210s get so popular? When I first started my player set, I used to be able to pick these up fairly reasonable and usually only had to worry about dugnkel bidding against me. Now I see at 5 people from the board bidding on these cards. Guess I will have to wait awhile before I am able to add anymore of these to my collection.

Pat, you need check out the Muncon t210. Great catcher card.

Jay- If I can't win it, I'm gonna run the price up on ya :-p

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Posted By: Brian McQueen

What exactly in Prewar cards ISN'T popular right now? I'm not saying I'm going to start collecting it or trying to draw attention to certain things, but it seems that everything I'm collecting is magically "on fire" right now. And I've seen enough threads from other collectors like this to make me think that it's not just stuff I'm interested in and that really pretty much about everything Prewar is starting to dry up.

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Posted By: jay behrens

I'd tend to agree with that. Even those wretched MP&Co cards are pulling down silly prices. The only things I'm picking up at decent prices are things like Goudey wide pens, Exhibits and other cards that are "larger" than normal. Even Kashins are starting to get expensive.

Jay

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Posted By: warshawlaw

1. Anything I post for sale

2. Anything I buy

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Posted By: Bryan Long

Everything pre-war if on fire. It almost seems that the first ebay days brought to light all these cards and now more collectors are showing up and the prices have gone through the roof on just about everything. This is why I am seeling some of my post-war cards on ebay right now. The prices have never been higher. But the pre-war market I think is starting to dry up - that is why everyone should sell me their Cobb cards at a decent price we so I can keep a stock pile for the group

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Posted By: robert a

C46 isn't bad. It's still reasonable to collect.
It doesn't have much to draw collectors to it.
I like it though.
robert a

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Posted By: jay behrens

Contentnea has NOTHING to draw it to the set other than a few players that made it to majors and no one of significance like Stengle and JAckson in the Old Mill set. Yet these card prices are right up there with Old Mills and I see the same bidding on those cards as Old Mills.

When Is tarted my player I went after player with only one card in obscure, unloved sets becuase there was little competetion, but that's not the case anymore. I can't even get small lot of beat up cards anymore. I a dealer outbid me on a group of t205s and I thought I was bidding too much as a collector. Guess I'll have to live off the occasional reasonable BIN that stumble across that you guys haven't beaten me too

Jay

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Posted By: Bob Marquette

I started collecting T210s because it is a huge set and there have been a lot of them on ebay and I like the red borders and nice black and white glossy pictures. They are not everyone's cup of tea but what else are you going to collect if you've already completed T205, 206 (minus Big 4), T207 and the some of the caramel card sets? Many of the other sets like E107 are too expensive and too elusive, so I think that is why a lot of collectors have moved after the 210s. The 201s and 202s are not my cup of tea so unless I stumble on a hoard of Ramlys or another find of Coupon cards, it looks like 210s and Zeenuts will be offering opportunities in the future. (I have also noticed a lot of T209s being offered lately so I think the same rationale applies to them as to the T210s).

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Actually, I have been outbid a lot more than typical in the past on the prewar stuff I collect. It is all very hot right now. If I was a true arbitrager, I would trade off as much of the appreciated prewar stuff as I could for as many of the "cold" postwar tough issues as I could find. After all, collectors who are priced out of the old stuff will move to other cards to get their fixes.

The Old Mill and Contentnea popularity are understandable if you look at the cards. They are very nice. I wish similar formats had been used for MLB cards.

I agree with the C46 comment. Got my first one recently--another really nice looking set.

If you want reasonable prices and challenges, try boxing cards. Still quite affordable and parallel to the baseball cards in terms of diversity, scarcity, designs, etc. One other sports set to consider is the T230 athletes by Pan Handle Scrap. I just got my first ones and I was really surprised at how nice the cards are. They are modern card sized, have a B & W photo with minimal colorization (the flesh is toned), a clean design, glossy surfaces and good bios on the backs. Too bad they are not baseball.

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Posted By: robert a

We've been chatting a little lately on the board about m116 and how hot it's been compared to years ago.

I distinctly remember thinking "wow, these are cheaper than t206."
They still are...sometimes.
The hall of fame players are now officially rediculous. Hall of famers in excellent condition used to be cheaper than good t206 hall of fame players.
The common commons from m116 can be had for cheap in vg-ex condition.
Blue Backgrounds have always been hot.

The thing that's really interesting about this set is that it's harder to find these guys in poor/fair/good condition than it is in excellent condition. (Because of the fact that they were issued separately from a product rather than being inserted into something. Collectors wanted to send away for them, therefore keeping them in great condition. On the other hand, with an issue like t206, someone who puffs cigs might have just thrown the card on the ground for someone else to pick it up.)

If more collectors who are simply looking for a type card were aware of the fact that these babies are easy to find in great condition, maybe they wouldn't get so darn excited and jack up the price so much.

Jay: I think there's a lot to be excited about concerning the t209 set once you crawl inside of it...not to mention the color set.
By the way, can anyone post a scan of a M-116 collector envelope????
robert a

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Posted By: Bob Marquette

Yes, I agree with you, I think the cat is out of the bag on the M116s. That set is going to really take off soon in my opinion. The problem I (and others trying to complete the set) have is two-fold: 1) You run in to HOF collectors who drive the prices up on the HOFers not because they are M116s but because they are HOFers and 2) Despite what anyone says, there are about 30-40 300 series back cards that are damn impossible to find. I have lucked in to some but that last 10-15 are NEVER for sale anywhere! I am hoping someone has a few at the National. It is amazing how you are beginning to see some of the very tough T207 scarcities pop up from time to time on ebay but the M116 rarities remain invisible. I also think it is interesting (sometimes painfully so) that some of the "commons" sell for so much simply because they are on every Sporting Life collectors want list.

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Posted By: jay behrens

I guess I should have said t209s have nothing foing for it player-wise. I love the b&w set. Lots of great photos. There just aren't any significant players in the set to draw someone to it.

Jay

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Posted By: Brian McQueen

Something that I've started doing a little more of is, instead of going for an entire set of something, I'll just go after a particular subset, team or series within the larger set. For instance, since there are hordes of t206 and t205 collectors out there now, instead of starting to try to acquire hordes of those blindly, I've decided to just go for t205 minor leaguers and t206 players from Kansas City. t210s and m116s can both be split up into the individual series they were produced within as well. Smaller projects like these save me from going after hundreds of cards I really have no interest in while still providing that "thrill of the chase" flavor that appeals to us set-collectors. In addition to diversifying my collection, it's also one less person in the market for all the other cards which does my part in keeping prices down since I won't be bidding on them

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Now the only sets I collect are the ones I loved as a kid.

Paying $$ for a "common" just does not sit right with me.

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Posted By: Patrick McMenemy

Hi Jay:

I was watching this card as well.

Someday, I hope to find a Old Mill Cabinet to go with his T210 issue.

Patrick