I'm certainly no expert on the authenticity of tobacco cards.
However, the T206 online database has scans of most of the Wagners that have come up for sale in the last twenty of so years and I did not see that background color on any of them.
As far as the Cobb is concerned, someone had earlier pointed out that the exact wrinkles were on another Cobb...and the Ty Cobb Tobacco back is the rarest of all Cobb backs.
What are the odds of someone inquiring about two of the most sought-after cards ever and acting as if they don't know it.
well LOL to you, sir ....now, Move along...nothing to see here...
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