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PaulThanks for the quote from SGC's website. This card certainly fits within SGC's own definition of VG. I just didn't think that "heavy crease(s)" or "pinholes" or a "tear" or "ink" (at least on the front) could ever qualify as VG. I guess SGC just has very strict standards for the high grades, and very loose (but openly stated) standards for the low grades. Of course, that still doesn't explain why that really nice caramel Wagner is a 2.