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Posted By: fkw

Cy Young was a great pitcher too, dont get me wrong, I just have a little problem putting him in the "best ever", with him losing 15 or more game in 13 of his 19 full seasons (I know he pitched many more games per year than modern pitchers). I was mainly going with domination in the prime of their careers (5-10 years span) when I chose my list. I used to have trouble with Ryan as one of the best ever, until you look at what he did at the end of his career (after learning to toss a good curve). Im sure there are others that can be listed....like Carlton, Spahn, and even BigEd Walsh with his "extremely hard to believe" 1910 season... 1.27 ERA ... giving up just 242 hits in 370 innings (well under 6 hits per 9 innings)..... he ended up losing 20 games while winning only 18?? WOW talk about dead ball era/hitless wonders!!) Frank