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Originally Posted by Cubswin82
Ramon Martinez was actually a very good pitcher...didn't get the hype that his younger brother did but the guy was solid in his own right. Went 20-6 one year, was 135-88 lifetime with a no-hitter under his belt.
Sandy Alomar was in the same bucket...he was a 6x All-star and fairly solid player in his own right.
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Let's not let the facts get in the way of what someone thought was a brainstorm example 
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