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Old 06-08-2012, 10:13 AM
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I've been looking for an excuse to resurrect this thread. I've been interested in learning more about these cards since picking up seven of them in a bargain bin at a card show a few years back. For a variety of reasons, these cards seem have never been completely accepted as legit, but that hasn't stopped a number of advanced collectors from believing they're real.

I went through quite an ordeal to get one graded. After being told by GAI that they couldn't grade the cards because "they are too controversial," I approached SGC and was told by several folks there that they "couldn't grade anymore," in part because of the opinion of one particularly prominent individual in the hobby (I've never met Levi, but I would very much like to hear his opinion here). In response, I said, "I'm convinced the color on this Frank Demaree card was part of the printing process. Take this card back to your lab in New Jersey, dip it in chemicals, and destroy it if you have to. I'm willing to risk this card to prove the others are real." About a month later, the card arrived back in an SGC 60 (PSA 5) holder.

For those who believe the color was added after the cards were printed, I have an observation I've yet to see debunked. Check out the blue on Demaree's sock. In my opinion, it would be impossible for an artist to color the socks with such precise accuracy unless he or she was working on an 8x10 photo. The sock on a 2-inch-by-3-inch slab of cardboard is simply too small to color with such precision.

Now if the color added was done more recently with high tech equipment (I have no idea actually how it could be done), why did these end up in a bargain bin for $5 each. What would be the motivation to do this much work just so someone else could make a profit?

One final note: some cards have red on them and it's sloppier than the other colors. I've wondered if the red was added after the printing process ...

To my knowledge, the following "colorized" cards have been cataloged: Mel Ott, Carl Hubbell, Daffy Dean, Burgess Whitehead, Harry Gumbert, Pete Coscaret, Buddy Hassett, Casey Stengel, Frank McCormick, Whitey Moore, Lonny Frey, Babe Phelps and Demaree. I've seen all but the Gumbert and Whitehead. I'm not aware of any duplicates that exist, and all are National Leaguers. They don't appear to come from the same series.

I noticed the photos from the old thread are gone, so I'm reposting them here ...
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