IIRC correctly John shut down Full Count for a short time (days), reopened it, things went right back to where they had been, and he shut it down for good. Mike Williams started the yahoo group and Elliot Bassin started Net 54 the day after Full Count shut down. Since Mike's was the "official" board (being co mod of Full Count) that board had a bit more weight behind it at first but 54 was more functional and within about 3 months Elliot's board had prevailed.
About 5 or 6 years ago Jay Behrens resurrected the Full Count name for a message board, but it's a different one from John and Mike's.
I still go back and read the old Full Count board every once and a while, I wonder whatever happened to the guy with the Johnny Kling stained glass window?
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