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Peter_SpaethJeff I speak from the civil context which I acknowledge may be different, but I don't share that viewpoint. Clients ultimately have to make certain decisions and all one can do is give them the best advice possible to inform those decisions. I would not make representation contingent on the client always taking my advice. If I were Clemens' long-time attorney and he rejected my advice and acknowledged that he was making that choice, I think my reaction would be, well I can still represent him better than anyone else so I will keep doing so -- as long as I would not be suborning perjury or doing anything else unethical. For example, would it really be doing Roger any favors to have a change of counsel, what message would THAT send to the public?