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Originally Posted by Pat R
With the exception of Dahlen and Lundgren who's team changes on
their cards resulted in them being short printed PD350's I don't think
the careers of the other nine were the reason for them being PD350
short prints.
There were lot's of other subjects from the 150/350 series with team
changes or whose career ended in the same time frame that are not
PD350 short prints.
Most notably Fielder Jones who has two 150/350 poses and his
career basically ended in 1908. He didn't play at all from 1909
until 1914 when he had 3 at bats with the STL terriers and
6 at bats with them in 1915 at the end of his career.
The following players careers ended in the same time frame as the elite 11
Alperman - 10/2/09
Bowerman - 7/13/09
Jiggs Donohue - 10/2/09
Ferris - 10/2/09
Billy Gilbert - 6/27/09
Bill henchman - Didn't play again until 1915 after the 1909 season ended
Isbell - 10/2/09
Liebhardt - 8/5/09
Frank Owen - 5/12/09
Pastorious - 8/23/09
Ritchey - 6/24/09
Shipke - 5/13/09
Weimer - Played in one game in 1909 5/28/09
Jimmy Williams - 10/3/09
I think the reason that nine of the elite 11 are PD350 short prints
is a matter of them getting omitted when they made the full change
to the 350 printing.
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Thanks, Pat....thank you.
For reminding me that I did a similar study some years ago (including a few more 150/350 guys). But, when you check out the Pop Report data of these subjects,
you will see that their pop number's vary from 20-40 cards each with PIEDMONT 350 backs. Therefore, I considered that their situation did not compare with the
Elite 11 subjects.
Furthermore let me add that perhaps the Elite 11 were not consecutively positioned as I have shown in Post #1. But, they were printed on the same sheet as the
initial Joe Doyle print run.
In the late 1950's when I was in High School, I worked in a print shop. I tell you this, because I recall when the printer made a minor mistake, they simply threw
away the entire sheet.
Then corrected their mistake and started cranking-out new sheets. I think this is what occurred here.
I maintain, that the coincidences of the Elite 11 cards with the Joe Doyle N. Y. Nat'l card (approx. the same pop report data; and, the Georgia connection) are just
too great to ignore.
TED Z
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