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Originally Posted by Pat R
No Ted I guess we can't prove with absolute certainty that ALC didn't print
350 only subjects on sheets with 150/350 subjects but from what we do
know about the printing it's unlikely that they did.
A few reasons why it's unlikely that Doyle was printed on a sheet with the
elite eleven.....
For starters Doyle isn't a true 350 only subject. He was printed with an
Apple green Sovereign 350 back so he was printed later in the 350 series
which makes him a print group 3 subject.
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There are no miscut front cards with a 150/350 subject and a 350 only or 350/460 subject.
Of the 40+ confirmed two name cards both names are all either 150/350 or 350 only or in a couple of examples 350 only/super print.
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Pat
This statement by T206resource is very misleading......
"For starters Doyle isn't a true 350 only subject. He was printed with an
Apple green Sovereign 350 back so he was printed later in the 350 series
which makes him a print group 3 subject."
These 66 subjects were initially printed as
350-only cards when American Litho (ALC) started printing the 350 series cards. Subsequently, ALC chose these 66 subjects
for the 350/460 series. During the SOVEREIGN 350 print runs, ALC identified these 66 guys with "apple green" backs. As we know, Joe Doyle's career ended before the
350/460 print runs (circa late 1910 > early 1911). Therefore, this subject is indeed a 350-only card. Which I believe was printed very early in the 350-series press runs.
I base this on these 2 factors......
Richard Russell's Joe Doyle N. Y. Nat'L card must have been acquired early in 1910 (or late 1909). As, 96 % of the subjects in the 350-series part of his collection have
PIEDMONT 350 backs.
And, mostly this one....The corrected Joe Doyle card with an EPDG back is very rare.
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Furthermore, I will repeat....the
T215-1 (RED CROSS) series....which was printed in the same timeline (circa 1910) as these T206's....comprises of a mixture of 150/350,
350-only, and 350/460 cards in their 1st series. Which absolutely confirms that in certain series, ALC re-arranged their printing plates from other print runs (and perhaps
also added new plates).
Your "plate scratch" project is an excellent analysis, and I commend you for your work. However as I see it, so far it only applies to PIEDMONT 150 sheets.
Regarding print runs of subsequent series and the various other T206 brands, I think different things occurred (that remain to be analyzed).
TED Z
T206 Reference
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