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Old 07-25-2013, 05:01 PM
SteveMitchell SteveMitchell is offline
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Can we please agree that Eddie Cicotte, Hal Chase and Heinie Zimmerman not be inducted into the HOF regardless of their talents or statistics? They all played greater roles than Shoeless Joe Jackson did in the gambling problems that plagued baseball in that decade.
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I guess not - at least not until the steroids issue is settled. Check out these figures for WAR (Wins Above Replacement) from Baseball-Reference.com. Until the steroids issue is resolved, for me the Bondses and Clemenses will be on my "close to HOF" list - together with Cicotte and Zimmerman. With the cloud surrounding their on-field performances, they hardly rank among the all-time great Hall of Famers that the list below might imply.

Babe Ruth 163.20
Barry Bonds 162.53
Willie Mays 156.09
Ty Cobb 151.08
Hank Aaron 142.39
Roger Clemens 140.30
Tris Speaker 133.94
Honus Wagner 130.59
Stan Musial 128.13
Rogers Hornsby 126.97
Eddie Collins 123.99
Ted Williams 123.16
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