In 2015, it is unknown what exactly Jaimet and HoS were up to. He/They were trimming cards by this point (more on that later), but it is unknown what other business ventures they were engaged in.
Then, in very late 2015, Heroes made its return:
Heroes of Sports "The Truth" was sold in late 2015 though early 2016, and the only way I can interpret the evidence that I am about to present is that it was a massive scam. Feel free to disagree, but nothing below adds up to a legitimate product being issued.
The product was 100 cases and was exclusively sold through BrosBreaks. Per Jaimet, it sold out the day before a concluding "draft" that seems comparable to the convoluted HoS points auctions from 2013 that I will not explain in this thread. Here is a tweet from Jaimet linking to the BreakersBro page:
Source:
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...64226331734017
Here is the BreakersBro page. Note the name "Jesse" and the linked Facebook group:
https://breakers.tv/brosbreaks
Here is the private Facebook group. As stated, this breaking group existed solely to break HoS "The Truth" and nothing else:
Source:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1641164426138784/
This is who is running the group (note that his name is Jesse):
https://www.facebook.com/jesse.craig.507
His LinkedIn:
Source:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/thecraiggrouppdx
He is/was the co-owner of HoS:
So this is a little bit suspect. The former, publicly unknown, co-owner named Jesse Craig (who interestingly enough now holds a high-level job at PWCC) created a breaking company to exclusively break 100% of a HoS product that has no checklist and will be broken entirely random-draft style. Does that seem a little bit suspect? If HoS wanted to break its own product why not just do that? Because they were running an elaborate fraud?
Jaimet posted some of the high-end hits from HoS "The Truth" on its Twitter page. Here's an example:
The problem is that about 90% of these cards posted do not appear to have been legitimately pulled/drafted to customers. Remember the title of this thread about Jaimet being a large PWCC consigner? That will be proven later, but for now, let's just analyze the hits from this product that were posted on Twitter. Of the last 25 hits from "The Truth" posted on Twitter, 22/25 were sold through PWCC directly after they were posted, 1 sold through Probstein, and 2 did not immediately come up for auction again. There are many more, but 25 seems to be a large enough sample to get the picture. The links are below:
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...97668879564800
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...dan-1797628882
PROBSTEIN
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...97361130844160
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1206869
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...97068112609281
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1212696
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...96871047380992
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1212476
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...96557401571328
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1206728
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...96200441126912
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ait-1799547343
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...95966281527296
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1207337
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...77735063900161
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1206805
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...38887022223360
DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN RESOLD
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...38730310467584
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1216707
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...36128722087941
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1217491
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...35845141000192
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1217069
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...35649485074432
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1204141
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...31161672069120
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1208019
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...30817772728320
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1212520
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...30567855091713
DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN RESOLD
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...30457775575040
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1211813
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...30309704122368
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1212564
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...30146574995456
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1206645
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...29611918684160
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1211544
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...26788371988480
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1212647
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...26608935469058
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1205491
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...26225550917636
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1212815
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...25955039244288
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1213132
https://twitter.com/HeroesofSport/st...25593486049281
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1212532
Why would 90% of the best hits be sold through PWCC immediately after they were pulled? The only logical conclusion is that BrosBreaks was created only to execute a fraud between HoS and Craig. If the product "sold out" there is no way for them to have legitimately retained 90% of the best hits. And I don't believe that one legitimate buyer purchased some 90 cases of the product.
After this debacle, Jaimet's trimming side hustle was in full force through 2016, but everything came to a halt at the end November 2018 when Jaimet was arrested for the following:
There is A LOT to this criminal case, and I'm just going to provide a summary here. If you are interested in reading through it yourself, use the link and instructions provided below to do so:
https://webportal.courts.oregon.gov/...e/Dashboard/29
Instructions: Enter "Jaimet, Will" in field and retype characters. Click on case 16CR75219. Do not use back button. Many fields are cut off on the website, so copy/paste may be necessary to read everything.
The short run down is the following: On 11/28/16, he was arraigned on the charges above. On 11/29/16 he posted $3k bail. On 12/01/16 his release was revoked, his $3k was forfeited, and his bail was upped to $500k. He was given a no contact order with his wife and kids on this date. At a 12/23/2016 court appearance he was summarily convicted of obstruction for cursing at the judge in court. Snapshot of that below. At a 01/18/2017 court appearance he was again summarily convicted of obstruction for cursing at the judge in court. On 03/03/2017, he plead guilty to the felony weapons charge and the other charges were dismissed. He was given time served plus 3 years probation. Per the website, he twice violated the terms of his probation. He is still on unsupervised felony probation as of today.
12/23/2016:
01/18/2017:
Again, look over everything yourself if you want the grittier details. There's some stuff that just isn't getting posted here.
A few months later, Jaimet was back to buying cards to trim, but his days of HoS products were evidently not yet over.
In early 2019, with all of Jaimet's LLCs expired for the umpteenth time and the HoS website lost to another entity, Jaimet fired up the HoS Twitter account again to start pumping his new HoS products. He distributed them to at least four breakers (Blowout Cards, Cardsmiths Breaks, Grand Slam Collectibles, and Layton Sports Cards). Yet again, there is no checklist and no sell sheet. I was amused to see that Grand Slam was selling the product based off of what was pulled from HoS products 4-5 years go. Simply comical.
It's hard to assess if a card is trimmed from a group break video, but here's a card that was pulled from 2019 HoS that is unquestionably trimmed:
Pre:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...lub-1887207185
Post:
https://twitter.com/cardsmithsbreak/...02598518960128
Break video:
https://youtu.be/xp5xHzgsjZM?t=414
I'm going to assert that this card from 2019 HoS is trimmed seeing as it went from a GMA 8.5 to a PSA 10. If anyone knows who has it, we can be 100% certain.
Pre:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...kie-1781925822
Break (Watch closely to see serial number is 1346/2011):
https://youtu.be/5JhrnWW4yzY?t=194
This card is suspect at best. I see no corner damage on the card pulled from HoS.
Pre:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ions-405237333
Break:
https://youtu.be/OyEH3j9-CMU
Lastly, Will Jaimet's Ebay account qut9 (proof below on how we can be certain that it is his account) purchased dozens of raw/BGS 9 Topps flagship color in early 2018. Many have visible flaws. Yet there are dozens of these cards that have never shown up for sale before in his 2019 product. I am certain most if not all are trimmed. Here's a few examples of what I'm talking about
:
Here are the flagship color cards he bought. Ctrl+f for q***u on these feedback pages. If you are so inclined, feel free to copy the listing title over to Worthpoint to check the condition of these cards out. Most clearly are not Gem Mint:
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...0&mPg=4&page=2
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...0&mPg=7&page=3
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...&mPg=25&page=2
https://web.archive.org/web/20190417...mPg=52&page=52
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30
https://web.archive.org/web/20190417...mPg=44&page=14
LINKING WILL JAIMET TO QUT9:
At this point, if you didn't come here from one of the sports threads showing trimmed cards sold via PWCC from Ebay user qut9, go check those out:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1288385
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1288384
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1288386
If you did, here are 5 points of proof that qut9 is Will Jaimet. #6 would be that his account went dead while he was dealing with his criminal case, but I won't prove that below.
1. qut9 is Located near Vancouver, Washington, but not in the state of Washington.
The name on qut9's account is Vancouver Card Company, which is 100% fictitious. No such LLC exists in Washington or Oregon, nor does Google return anything. Here is a BO post about that user ID:
Source:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...highlight=qut9
Note the 97... zip. That has to be an Oregon address, not one in Washington. Jaimet is in the Tigard/Lake Oswego area, which has a 97... zip code.
2. A Card qut9 purchased appears in a 2019 HoS product.
Link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190416...rchInterval=30
Break:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FP...&list=WL&t=790
3. An unnamed, reliable source puts trimmed Jeter qut9 purchased in Will Jaimet's possession.
Dan called the following card out as trimmed here:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...86&postcount=2
Here is the buyer feedback for the raw sale of that card (note exact title match):
Link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190406...824572&page=55
A reliable source puts this card in Will Jaimet's possession.
4. In 2013, qut9 purchased card inserted in HoS.
Link:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...dard-464583030
Link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190420...&mPg=14&page=7
5. In 2013, qut9 purchased card inserted in HoS.
Link:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...nte-1617130819
Link:
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...&mPg=14&page=6
Worthpoint:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...mber-423415532
This card might be trimmed, but I am unconvinced as I really don't like the raw seller's pictures due to their tendency to magnify damage. You decide.
POINTS TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS THREAD:
1. Do NOT purchase any Heroes of Sports products.
2. Buyer beware when purchasing cards from fly-by-night repack/card companies.
3. If a modern graded (PSA, BGS, or SGC) card's first sale was through PWCC, I'd say there is approximately a 50% chance it is trimmed. Use the PWCC Auction history to verify a card has never sold though PWCC in addition to Worthpoint to look for evidence of trimming. Additional threads in the works will further substantiate this statistic.
4. It greatly concerns me that Jesse Craig is employed by PWCC considering his involvement with HoS and relationship with Jaimet.