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john kal Help me out, people. I believe that Major League about a decade or so ago issued a statement to the effect that if a player did something against the laws of the United States (eg. performance enhancing drugs without a precsription)it was also against the laws of baseball. This is to Cy's point. But Cy can't see the difference between Bonds taking a cornucopia of drugs to turn himself into the Frankenstein monster and, say, Leo Durocher stealing signs or Preacher Roe throwing the spitter or having players think he did. On another point: I believe HGH can improve eyesight. One more: I believe that greenies do not boost performance because they raise the standing heartrate which is the last thing you'd want in a workout. You might feel more alert for a time but then you crash. Plus the dangers to the central nervous system. (The football player who died using ephedra would be an example)