I think you guys are missing out on a tremendous opportunity (if you are seriously interested in any of the cards in question.)
I regularly make offers and get them accepted. I simply offer fair market value. Sometimes I get rejected - so what?
There are at least two sellers I can think of who you guys complain about all the time - you used to complain about the high prices on their websites, before they were heavy into the internet. I used to contact those guys all the time and get great discounts on their cards. I'm not giving names out, as I still do it.
I once contacted one of these sellers you describe on ebay, and asked him what his strategy was, since he had a caramel Cobb priced at 2X VCP price. He sent me a link to one that had recently sold for 2X VCP price, so that pretty much shut me up. These sellers may be idiots, but there are buyers out there who are just as idiotic.
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