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Old 08-03-2009, 03:02 PM
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Default Fred Clarke identification

Hey, guys. I've got a question for you. I picked up my 1913 Pittsburgh Pirates photo at the National and it has noted in the letter that 2 HOFers are in the picture (namely Wags and Carey). I began to wonder if Clarke is in the picture since he played for the Pirates in 1913 after taking 1912 off from playing and since he is pictured on the 1913 T200 Fatima card.

Of interest to note is the fact that Clarke is not included in the 1913 Voskamp Coffee set. Follow-up question for that is, why? (I have verified the checklist and compared it with both the 1912 and 1913 rosters. I am convinced that the Voskamps are correctly identified as 1913).

Back to Clarke and the reason for this thread...

In looking at the photo that is identified by Max Carey as having been taken in 1913, I am wondering if the guy in the first picture is Fred Clarke and is simply not identified as being a 3rd HOFer in the photo. I have also included other photos of Clarke from Fatima, Fan Craze, and another photo identified as being him. So, the question ... is this Fred Clarke?

Thanks for your help.
Brian



His image from the 1913 T200 Fatima (reportedly same year as above)


An undated photo of Fred Clarke (probably sometime around 1908 based on the uni)


a young Fred Clarke... as pictured in 1906 Fan Craze. (pic is likely from a couple to few years before that though) (not my card)
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