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MattJason - did I make any accusations or state any personal experience? I'm not sure why people are having trouble following this, I NEVER claimed I was shilled, I NEVER claimed I had a bad experience. Before I bid thousands of dollars on something I don't think it's unreasonable to gather other's experiences.
Tom - if I thought it significant at the time, I would have saved the info, but who saves every chat transcript from public forums? Without fail, the consensus in the room was that Lipset was a problem and therefore I was going to take their advice and stay away; now I see this thread and apparently that is not consensus, but the chat with the links is long gone; although I did dig one up (listed above).