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Old 08-30-2007, 04:38 PM
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Posted By: Jim VB

I respect your thoughts on Baseball cards, but you are wrong about track. There has never been a 16 year old who has run under 4 minutes in the mile. It's only happened 4 times and three of those times were in the 1960's. This is the all time list:

MILE ALL TIME HS LIST
3:53.43 Alan Webb (South Lakes, Reston, Virginia) 01
3:55.3 Jim Ryun (East, Wichita, Kansas) 65
3:59.4 Tim Danielson (Chula Vista, California) 66
3:59.8 Marty Liquori (Essex Catholic, Newark, New Jersey) 67
4:00.29 Donald Sage (York, Elmhurst, Illinois) 00

Ryun and Liquori had long, outstanding careers, both nationally and internationally. Danielson was an outstanding College runner, but never measured up to either of the other two.


Also calling Webb's race today a miserable failure is ridiculous. He did lead at the 400 meter mark, but not at 800 or 1200. He "faded" to 8th in the stretch, but the top 8 guys finished within .92 seconds of the lead. He will always have trouble when it comes down to a kickers race. He will never have the leg speed of some of his competitors. His best races will come when he moves up to 5000M. He is among the world's elite in this event.

Also, for the record, Bernard Lagat has been a US citizen for a couple of years. It's become fairly common for some of the top level Kenyans to move elsewhere to train. Kenya always tries to comtrol them by telling them which races to run, what to do with their prize money and which Kenyan "should" win certain races. Kenya's track & field organization is corrupt. Many of the top guys have moved to get citizenship elsewhere.

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