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Posted By: JudgeDred2

Wonk,

That's one of the nicer looking "2s" I've seen.


Jim,


1)Establishing what is permissable and what is not permissable to do with cards. Which alterations are acceptable and which are not.
NOBODY CAN SEEM TO AGREE ON THIS ISSUE. PERHAPS A POLE ON EACH TOPIC BUT I'D CHECK WITH LEON. MAYBE HE COULD SET UP A POLE EVERY WEEK WITH A FEW DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. YOU CAN THEN MAKE USE OF THE DATA.

2)Forming a Collectors Association that speaks for the Collector(or should it have representatives from dealers and graders?)

3)Coming out with a Code of Ethics for dealers

4)Disclosure items for auction houses such as do they own the items or are they consigned.WE DIFFER ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T CARE IF THE AUCTION HOUSE OWNS MATERIAL OR NOT, IT'S ALL GOING TO BE THE SAME. IF THERE ARE DISHONEST AUCTIONEERS THEN DISCLOSING WHAT'S THEIRS ISN'T GONT TO SOLVE ANYTHING. SOME STUFF JUST SELLS FOR MORE BECAUSE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE REALLY WANT IT. I COULD MAKE A CASE IN POINT BUT I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT - IT'S JUST MY OPINION. PERHAPS THIS COULD BE A QUESTION ON AN OPINION POLL


5)Establishing a Board of Directors for this collectors advisory association that can set policy with imput from collectors.

6)Get commitments from dealers , graders and auction houses on this Code of Ethics. GOOD LUCK ON THIS ONE. I'M PRETTY SURE TAHT A LOT OF DEALERS AND AUCTION HOUSES SEE THIS AS A BBB OF SORTS. THEY MAY NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH GETTTING A SEAL OF APPROVAL WHICH THEY PRETTY MUCH HAVE WITH THEIR CORE BUYERS ALREADY. AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT IDEA BUT GETTING IT OFF THE GOUND WILL BE A CHALLENGE.


7)Award the so-called Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval(Jay Miller's idea) to dealers, graders, auction houses who agree to abide by the industry's Code of Ethics

8)Dealers can advertise that they are an approved dealer of this Collectors Association or something to that effect.

Other steps such as some of the ones that Bruce suggested take time and money and the dedicated time of one or more people.

Anyway, I look forward to everyone's comments.

THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. I THINK THE TOPIC IS EYE OPENING AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH READING BUT IN THE FUTURE I'D TRY DOING IT IN A MORE CONTROLLED FORMAT WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T SHRED THE AUCTION AND GRADING COMPANY REPS. BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THEIR COMMENTS ARE WELCOME BUT EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION - NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO AGREE WITH WHAT'S WRITTEN SO WHY LET THE BOARD MEMBERS TEAR UP A COMPANY REP FOR VOICING THEIR THOUGHTS. WE COULD DO IT ALL DAY LONG BUT IN THE END THE COMPANY REPS WILL GET TIRED OF BEING BEAT OVER THE HEAD. AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I APPLAUD DOUG ALLEN, STEVE VERKMAN, BARRY AND ANY OTHER COMPANY REP THAT RESPONDED. TO ME THIS WASN'T THE INQUISITION, SALEM WITCH HUNTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT WAS JIM TRYING TO GET SOME ANSWERS TO A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I'M SURE A FEW OF US WONDER ABOUT.