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Posted By: jay behrens

Jeff, nice of you to conviently forget about Koufax's first 7 years. During that run he hed a losing record and never had a winning season. Gale SAyers is a bad comparison because Sayers was great right out of the gate. As I said and John also pointed out, you flip Koufax's career around and you get Dwight Gooden. Do also think Good belongs in the HOF? You should since they have remarkabley similar careers, only one was great at the beginging of his career and faded out, while the other got the benifit (if you can an injury that) of going out on the top of his game. At the peak of his career, no doubt, Koufax was possibly the greatest. But to be considered an all-time great, you need to do it for your WHOLE career, not for just 5 years.

Jay

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