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Old 02-10-2024, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocketcards View Post
What many of you understandably don’t realize is that cards at this level are graded against each other rather than graded on the normal scale your typical Hunky Shaw would be.

These high profile cards have all been overgraded since the beginning of time or since card 00000001 rolled off the assembly line. Have any of you held the PSA 5 Wagner in your hand? While it looks nice in pictures if you saw it in person you would see there is a crease running down the middle that has been rubbed out but is still noticeable. Would it grade a 5 if it was Danny Murphy? Of course not but it’s still nicer than the lone copy of PSA 4 so that’s how the grade is justified.

Would your Orval Overall that looks exactly like this SGC 5 Wagner grade a 5? No, but is it the cards fault that these Wagner’s have all been overgraded since card 00000001? These cards get slotted into the grade they deserve AGAINST EACH OTHER and not against your typical common. Would it be fair to the card if this one gets graded on a regular scale while the rest of the Wagner’s haven’t been? Thus if you look at the Wagner’s in totality this one falls where it belongs, better than the 4 and equal to the 5. I’m not sure if it’s reasonable for it to be anyway else and certainly not the card’s fault that every other Wagner before it has been graded on a different scale than commons. So if you compare apples with apples and not Wagner’s with commons it presumably makes more sense as to why these cards are graded as they are. And if you google images of Wagner 3’s, 4’s and 5 you will see it better. Not sure it’s fair but remember it all began with card 00000001 and proceeded from there so that’s really where the blame, if any, belongs and not on a specific card that’s just being slotted where it belongs in the universe of all the Wagner’s preceding it. While I understand the frustration, don't blame the player, blame the game.
We are very much blaming the people running the game, because they claim it works differently and that big cards are not graded on a separate scale designed to juice those cards. No grading company is admitting there are separate 1-10 scales for the peons and for the marquees. I don't think anyone is unaware or does not understand that they do this in reality; the problem is the dishonesty absurdity.
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